thomblake comments on Holden's Objection 1: Friendliness is dangerous - LessWrong

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Comment author: JoshuaZ 18 May 2012 01:38:26AM *  6 points [-]

Opponents of gay marriage make it clear that they do not object to gay marriage based on a long-range utilitarian calculation; they directly value not allowing gays to marry.

Well, most of them do so in part out of their deity telling them that that's a value. If the extrapolated CEV takes into account that they are just wrong about there being such a deity, it should respond accordingly. (I'm working under the what should not be controversial assumption that the AGI isn't going to find out that in fact there is such a deity hanging around.)

Comment author: thomblake 18 May 2012 02:07:03PM *  3 points [-]

I'm working under the what should not be controversial assumption that the AGI isn't going to find out that in fact there is such a deity hanging around.

Just as helpfully, if the FAI concludes that there is a deity around who we should please and who would prefer objecting to gay marriage, it will properly regard that as a value.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 18 May 2012 02:37:49PM 1 point [-]

Or, presumably, if it concludes that there might some day come to be a deity, or other vastly powerful entity, who would prefer having objected to gay marriage.

Of course, all of this further presumes that there aren't/won't be other vastly powerful entities whose preferences have equal weight in opposite directions.