Wei_Dai comments on Holden's Objection 1: Friendliness is dangerous - LessWrong

11 Post author: PhilGoetz 18 May 2012 12:48AM

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Comment author: RolfAndreassen 18 May 2012 06:06:44PM 0 points [-]

CEV is not any old set of evolved values. It is the optimal set of evolved values; the set you get when everything goes exactly right. Of your two proposed futures, one of them is a better approximation to this than the other; I just can't say which one, at this time, because of lack of computational power. That's what we want a FAI for. :)

Comment author: Wei_Dai 18 May 2012 06:31:28PM *  2 points [-]

Instead of pushing Phil to accept the entirety of your position at once, it seems better to introduce some doubt first: Is it really very hard to do better than to just not interfere? If I have other values besides evolution, should I give them up so quickly?

Also, if Phil has already thought a lot about these questions and thinks he is justified in being pretty certain about his answers, then I'd be genuinely curious what his reasons are.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 18 May 2012 08:06:29PM 3 points [-]

I misread the nesting, and responded as though your comment were a critique of CEV, rather than Phil's objection to CEV. So I talked a bit past you.