Konkvistador comments on Conspiracy Theories as Agency Fictions - LessWrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 09 June 2012 03:48:54PM *  4 points [-]

This needs a lot more work before it's a great essay.

Aha! So you clearly see the potential for greatness. ;)

I will try to improve it.

The way I would write it is basically 'a classic evolutionary explanation of religion is overactive false-positive agent-detection

Excellent observation, I didn't think of the obvious parallels. I think someone just considering religion could easily stumble upon these conclusion but that wasn't the road I travelled. I spent a lot of time comparing various different conspiracy theories and researching the psychology behind them.

Comment author: evand 10 June 2012 02:43:39AM 1 point [-]

This needs a lot more work before it's a great essay. Aha! So you clearly see the potential for greatness. ;)

I see rather a lot of typos and incomplete sentences.

Our is a paranoid brain

This jumped out at me. There were several others.

Putting aside such wild speculation, what should we take away from this? When trying to understand something which you can't model very well or don't understand the models others use. A topic that strains your cognitive resources. A topic that you think deserves more attention. Something with stuff going wrong. Something that is unpredictable. A model that would require much coordination to. When you see these thing don't think conspiracy.

This is filled with incomplete sentences.

Overall, I liked the ideas here, but the writing made them hard to follow. I'm also troubled by the lack of examples (see Douglas_Knight's comment below).

Comment author: [deleted] 10 June 2012 10:58:45AM *  1 point [-]

When trying to understand something which you can't model very well or don't understand the models others use. A topic that strains your cognitive resources. A topic that you think deserves more attention. Something with stuff going wrong. Something that is unpredictable. A model that would require much coordination to. When you see these thing don't think conspiracy.

Based on feedback I've changed the above paragraph into:

"Putting aside such wild speculation, what should we take away from this? When do conspiracy theories seem more likely than they are?

  • The phenomena is unpredictable or can't be modelled very well
  • Models used by others are hard to understand or are very counter-intuitive
  • Thinking about it significantly strains cognitive resources
  • Explains why bad things happen or why something went wrong
  • Requires coordination

When you see these features you probably find the theory more plausible than it is. "

Is this an improvement?

Comment author: evand 10 June 2012 01:55:30PM 1 point [-]

Somewhat.

First bullet: join the two phrases with either "and" or "or". Also, you seem to have at least two (possibly three) antecedents for "it" in those bullets. I suspect removing all four instances would be clearer.

Comment author: [deleted] 10 June 2012 02:02:16PM *  1 point [-]

Great suggestions, thank you. I will try to avoid such mistakes in future writing. I'm just wondering however, how I can get rid of it in this sentence:

"Thinking about it significantly strains cognitive resources"

Comment author: evand 10 June 2012 03:07:36PM 2 points [-]

Don't remove the sentence; replace "it" with its antecedent. In other words, answer the question "thinking about what?". Thinking about the conspiracy theory? The actual sequence of events that happened? Or the non-conspiracy explanation for those events? That's what I meant for all four bullet points.

As a general rule, "it" is fine when the intended antecedent is in the same sentence, and there is only one such antecedent for all instances of "it" in a single sentence. Multiple distinct instances in one sentence, or an unambiguous antecedent earlier in the same paragraph, can often be fine, but should be scrutinized more closely. Antecedents that don't appear in the same paragraph are generally a bad idea. (As always, there are exceptions and details. But that's a good starting point.)

Comment author: [deleted] 11 June 2012 07:01:33AM 1 point [-]

Thank you very much for your patience, thinking about language really isn't my thing, I think the OP is now much better due to your advice.

Comment author: [deleted] 10 June 2012 08:06:43AM *  1 point [-]

I see rather a lot of typos and incomplete sentences.

Please PM me so I can fix them! I've been very grateful to the proofreaders so far. :)

Our is a paranoid brain seeing agency in every shadow or strange sound.

By the time I read your comment this sentence was already complete. Are you sure you didn't misread it? I did several corrections and minor edits since posting the original article so maybe I fixed it and forgot about it.

This is filled with incomplete sentences.

That paragraph was originality one long sentence, after gwern's comment I broke it up to make it more readable. Would a list be better?

I'm also troubled by the lack of examples (see Douglas_Knight's comment below).

This was intended as a feature rather than a bug. But if many people are bothered by this maybe should make a follow up post that analyses several examples to see where they conform or not to the features described here.

Comment author: evand 10 June 2012 01:58:04PM 1 point [-]

Our is a paranoid brain seeing agency in every shadow or strange sound.

By the time I read your comment this sentence was already complete. Are you sure you didn't misread it? I did several corrections and minor edits since posting the original article so maybe I fixed it and forgot about it.

"Our" is incorrect here. It think you mean "ours".

Comment author: [deleted] 10 June 2012 02:04:51PM 0 points [-]

Ah! Fixed.