TimS comments on Thoughts on moral intuitions - LessWrong

39 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 30 June 2012 06:01AM

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Comment author: buybuydandavis 29 June 2012 09:04:09PM 1 point [-]

A social conservative here. I'm surprised.

While you're here, do you feel the following is an accurate, fair, and balanced portrayal of the disagreement between social conservatives and liberals on the relationship of homosexuality to the state?

For example, social conservatives sometimes complain that liberals are pushing their morality on them, by requiring things such as not condemning homosexuality. To liberals, this is obviously absurd - nobody is saying that the conservatives should be gay, people are just saying that if somebody is gay, the conservatives shouldn't kill or harass them. From the liberal point of view, it is the conservatives who are pushing their beliefs on others, not vice versa.

Do you think that liberals think that you "should be gay", or that liberals are trying to make you gay, and you would be heartened by disavowals to the contrary? As a social conservative, is your political goal to make killing and harassment of homosexuals legal?

I assume the answer to all my questions would be "no".

What redeeming value do you find in that paragraph?

Comment author: TimS 29 June 2012 09:11:59PM 3 points [-]

It seems like a fair paraphrase of theist right-wing political thought. Theist right-wing thought is not a fair representation of right-wing thought on LessWrong, but Kaj Sotala hardly claims that. And theist right-wing thought is a major strain of "conservative" thought in the United States.

Comment author: [deleted] 30 June 2012 06:21:31AM *  11 points [-]

Yes you are quite right on this.

I'm not sure buybuydandavis realizes that by far the single largest donor for the Singularity Institute as well as a major backer of anti-ageing research is a Gay Christian Conservative Libertarian who wrote a book denouncing Multiculturalism and political correctness, thinks too many people are going to college and isn't that enthusiastic about democracy.

I think at least a few readers minds have been blown. :D

Stereotyping is useful but sometimes misleading. This lessons is hardest to apply to one's perceived political opponents.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 14 July 2012 09:30:58PM -1 points [-]

????

I didn't realize that, but I have no idea why you find Thiel relevant to my criticism of a particularly bad moral argument. If you see some relevance, please spell it out for me.