Peterdjones comments on The noncentral fallacy - the worst argument in the world? - LessWrong

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Comment author: Peterdjones 30 August 2012 09:33:47AM 3 points [-]

But there are any number of sub-varieties of socialism, so it is itself a fuzzy blob. Moreover, the non-right in many countries, particularly the US, barely has a whiff of classical socialism, Who is advocating a centrally planned economy or worker control of production in the US? It's a standing joke in Europe that the US has two parties of the right. That's "perception" of course. It's also a US perception that public healthcare "is" socialism -- the idea is seen as mainstream and cross-party elsewhere. What is going on is that the right have this convenient label "socialist" to lambast the non-right with, and the non-right don't have a corresponding term to hit back with. That doesnt mean anything about ideaspace.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 31 August 2012 01:25:26AM 0 points [-]

Who is advocating a centrally planned economy

Well, that depends on the industry. For example, as you mentioned below, the left here is advocating central planning in the medical industry.

Comment author: Peterdjones 31 August 2012 12:35:41PM *  0 points [-]

the left here is advocating central planning in the medical industry.

Of course I meant central planning of (pretty much) everything. Every polity has some central planning of some things.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 01 September 2012 02:55:37AM 0 points [-]

The question is how much of the economy is under central planning and which factions are trying to increase or decrease it.

Comment author: Peterdjones 01 September 2012 07:15:56PM 0 points [-]

Which question? Wanting some but not all things under state/provision control is not socialsim by any strict definition. More like moderate or centrel-left or social democracy or something. But "social democrat!" doens't have the right insulting ring.