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I'm surprised that so many people here are willing to give the benefit of a doubt to single-issue I-know-I-am-right irrationalists.
What you did in the ancestor poll was effecting pointing and laughing at an already isolated member of the community while encouraging others to join in the mocking and jeering.
It felt to me so stereotypically villainous bullying that I'm surprised I didn't actually experience a PTSD flashback or something to my highschool years.
I take an issue with your statement that eridu is "a member of the community". There are plenty of radical feminism communities, this is NOT one of them.
S/he is NOT required to visit this place every day for six hours, like you were in high school, so there are no parallels whatsoever with your unfortunate experience. S/he can happily stay among his/her man-hating online groups instead of proselytizing his/her vile message here.
This person's radical feminist posts make this forum a worse place by lowering the overall sanity of it, as has been commented on before. Rejecting this disease by silently downvoting his/her every post (and every reply) is the sane thing to do, short of banning him/her outright.
I downvoted plenty of eridu's posts, but I also upvoted a minority of them, because they actually taught me something about radical feminism (starting with the fact that it apparently exists in earnest, and is not a straw-woman argument created to discredit other kinds of feminism). Am I ever going to apply this knowledge in practice ? Probably not, but knowledge is still neat, and a good thing to have.
Yes, I also clicked on eridu's link the first time (and I did not downvote that post), but his/her subsequent comments had no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
If you're going to hate on a person rather than individual posts, a) don't and b) read enough to get his pronoun right.
Fixed, thanks.
I take “the community” in ArisKataris's post to refer to the set of people who write here regularly. But yeah, a narrower meaning (e.g. people with non-negligible positive karma) would be more useful.
That would probably cover 99% of the regulars, not an overly restrictive definition.
But it would exclude eridu, that's the point.
Eridu isn't a member of the community and the account has actively positioned itself as external.
While I believe that being surprised is less significant than being confused, there still may be some reason for you to update.
Hmm, what should this update look like?
Maybe people at LW are typically less like you than you think. (This may be true for people's opinion of other people in general.)
Maybe there's more value in what eridu says than you realize.
There would almost have to be (regression to the mean and all).
Right, that's obviously true of those who participated in the poll.
I'd be interested to learn what this value might be and how it outweighs the obvious negative value.
Tangential instrumental value: They challenged, directly, indirectly, or by sideways questioning, beliefs that I already held and had not taken the chance to update since long before my arrival to LessWrong. eridu was thus a very convenient poster for me to cover this and surrounding topics and manually propagate updates throughout my mental model(s).
Short of arguing against someone who has a dragon in their garage, I don't see what could help me update my beliefs more quickly without massive confirmation bias and heuristic errors.
Can you give a few examples of these updates?
For a start, it seems you'll have to abandon that particular political tactic (because it didn't work). Please do use a different one. Eridu is toxic and so is that kind of politics.