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Comment author: Cyan 26 November 2012 03:09:40PM *  6 points [-]

This comment is directed to the LW commentariat, not just Daniel_Burfoot.

Fill in the blank with responses covering reasonable prior probability mass:

Father: You need to be able to cook and keep a clean house, or what man would want to marry you?
Daughter: I'm not interested in getting married -- I'm going to focus on my career instead.
Father: __________

Father: You need to be able to cook and keep a clean house, or what man would want to marry you?
Daughter: I'm not interested in getting married -- to a man.
Father: __________

Father: You need to get a good job and learn how to dress well, or what woman would want to marry you?
Son: I'm not interested in getting married -- I'm going to focus on my hacking skills and RPG game design.
Father: __________

Father: You need to get a good job and learn how to dress well, or what woman would want to marry you?
Son: I'm not interested in getting married -- to a woman.
Father: __________

Comment author: thomblake 26 November 2012 05:09:52PM *  5 points [-]

Daughter: I'm not interested in getting married -- to a woman.

I'm guessing example #4 was supposed to have a character named "Son"?

Comment author: Cyan 27 November 2012 04:57:17AM 1 point [-]

Yup, thanks.

Comment author: Salemicus 26 November 2012 03:50:20PM *  6 points [-]

All my answers would be variants on:

Father: You need to be able to cook and keep a clean house, or what man would want to marry you?

Daughter: I'm not interested in getting married -- I'm going to focus on my career instead.

Father: I fully expect you to do both. Stop being lazy and learn to look after yourself.

Comment author: Cyan 27 November 2012 05:03:21AM *  2 points [-]

All my answers

Do you mean these are the answers you expect the father in the scenario would give, or the answers you personally would give? The former is what I'm after; eliciting the latter is not the point the grandparent.

Comment author: Salemicus 27 November 2012 09:00:23AM 0 points [-]

The former.

Comment author: Icehawk78 27 November 2012 01:54:42PM 2 points [-]

Personally, I (and I assume many others) would have a drastically different response than any of these four.

Parent: You need to [cook/clean, job/dress well], or what person would want to marry you? Child: Why should I learn these skills for the benefit of someone else, rather than for myself?

Regardless of the interest or not in marriage, these are skills/actions that are useful for anyone, marriage-oriented or not, to have, simply to live as a socially well-rounded adult. (Obviously, alternate options are available, such as getting such a well-paying job that you can pay for a maid/chef, or some alternate situation in which "getting a good job" is unnecessary to your well-being, as well.)

Comment author: [deleted] 27 November 2012 01:15:53PM *  0 points [-]

How old are Son and Daughter? I'd expect very different responses if they are 11 than if they're 17. (BTW, Father would sound to me like much more of an asshole in the former case than in the latter.)