Peterdjones comments on By Which It May Be Judged - LessWrong

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Comment author: Peterdjones 12 December 2012 09:20:19PM -1 points [-]

"Creation must have a creator" is about as good as "the-randomly-occuring-totailty randomly occurred".

Comment author: MugaSofer 13 December 2012 09:12:38AM 1 point [-]

OK, firstly, I'm not looking for a debate on theology here; I'm well aware of what the LW consensus thinks of theism.

Secondly, what the hell is that supposed to mean?

Comment author: Peterdjones 13 December 2012 10:27:29AM 1 point [-]

OK, firstly, I'm not looking for a debate on theology here

You seem to have started one.

Secondly, what the hell is that supposed to mean?

That one version of the First Cause argument begs the question by how it describes the universe.

Comment author: MugaSofer 13 December 2012 11:39:01AM * 1 point [-]

You seem to have started one.

I clarified a probability estimate. I certainly didn't intend an argument:(

That one version of the First Cause argument begs the question by how it describes the universe.

As ... created. Optimized? It's more an explanation, I guess.