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32 Post author: katydee 07 March 2013 02:11AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 09 March 2013 11:17:40AM *  0 points [-]

“The best mathematicians are disproportionately white and asian, therefore if I hire a white or asian I'll get an above-average mathematician” is Bayesianly correct if the race is the only thing you know about the candidates; but it isn't (a randomly-chosen white or Asian person is very unlikely to be a decent mathematician), and the other information you have about the candidates most likely mostly screens off the information that race gives you about maths skills.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 09 March 2013 08:05:33PM *  4 points [-]

Read the comment I linked to and possibly subsequent discussion if you're interested in these things.

Comment author: [deleted] 10 March 2013 04:07:37PM *  1 point [-]

Hmm, so E(the Math SAT score that X deserves|the Math SAT score that X got is 800, and X is male) is just 4 points more than E(the Math SAT score that X deserves|the Math SAT score that X got is 800, and X is female). That doesn't sound like terribly much to me, and I'd guess there are plenty of people who, due to corrupted mindware and stuff, would treat a male who got 800 better than a female who got 800 by a much greater extent than justified by that 4-point difference in the Bayesian posterior expected values. (Cf the person who told whowhowho that Obama must be dumber than Bush -- surely we know much more about them than their races?)

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 10 March 2013 07:44:26PM *  3 points [-]

I'm not sure if this is correct, but I sometimes wonder given how they're surrounded by spin-doctors and other image manipulators how much we really know about prominent politicians, especially when the politician in question is new so you can't look at his record.