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Comment author: [deleted] 23 March 2013 11:44:37PM *  -1 points [-]

As for your example, that's because one-man-one-vote is a more workable Schelling point since otherwise you have the problem of who decides which people have better political judgement.

You include a copy of the Cognitive Reflection Test or similar in each ballot and weigh votes by the number of correct answers to the test.

(This idea isn't original to me, BTW -- but I can't recall anyone expressing it on the public Internet at the moment.)

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 24 March 2013 11:30:35PM 3 points [-]

You include a copy of the Cognitive Reflection Test or similar in each ballot and weigh votes by the number of correct answers to the test.

This doesn't quite solve the Schelling point problem. You start getting questions about why that particular test and not some other. You will also get problems related to Goodheart's law.

Comment author: [deleted] 25 March 2013 07:14:13PM *  -2 points [-]

You start getting questions about why that particular test and not some other.

Well... People might ask that about (say) university admission tests, and yet in practice very few do so with a straight face. (OTOH, more people consider voting a sacrosanct right than studying.)

ETA: now that I think about that, this might be way more problematic in a country less culturally homogeneous than mine -- I'm now reminded of complaints in the US that the SAT is culturally biased.

You will also get problems related to Goodheart's law.

Keeping the choice of questions secret until the election ought to mitigate that.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 26 March 2013 02:46:56AM 3 points [-]

now that I think about that, this might be way more problematic in a country less culturally homogeneous than mine -- I'm now reminded of complaints in the US that the SAT is culturally biased.

Also in the US the SAT is only one of the factors effecting admissions.

Keeping the choice of questions secret until the election ought to mitigate that.

Only partially. Also what about the people whose design the questions?

Comment author: gwern 26 March 2013 02:53:18AM -1 points [-]

Also what about the people whose design the questions?

High-stakes testing, like the SAT, where voters - I mean, test-takers - have vastly more incentive to cheat, seem to do fine.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 26 March 2013 03:17:37AM 3 points [-]

Come to think of it, the problem is that the people designing the SAT's have fewer incentives to bias them then people designing the election tests.