Desrtopa comments on Don't Get Offended - LessWrong

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Comment author: Desrtopa 27 March 2013 02:00:46AM *  5 points [-]

Except that poor white neighborhoods are much safer then poor black neighborhoods.

An intrinsic relation between race and social behavior is in the realm of possibility, but there are highly relevant social factors to take into account here even when you've adjusted for economic status. In low income black neighborhoods, law enforcement tends to adopt a much more adversarial relationship with the population than in white neighborhoods, such that black people are much more likely to be arrested and convicted relative to their actual crime rates, and are subject to frequent stops and searches on extremely tenuous bases. Speaking for myself, I suspect I'd have much less respect for the law if I grew up in an environment that reinforced the impression that law enforcement was out to get me from the start.

Comment author: [deleted] 27 March 2013 11:01:39AM 2 points [-]

there are highly relevant social factors to take into account here even when you've adjusted for economic status

Indeed, central/southern Italy is not particularly genetically diverse AFAIK and yet certain cities are safer than others by probably several orders of magnitude, for all kinds of reasons.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 27 March 2013 07:36:25AM 3 points [-]

Or that even successful instances of law enforcement tend to get shut down by self-proclaimed anti-racists. Or the fact that most blacks are raised by single mothers.

This is not the only cause. The problem is that it's considered taboo to propose any explanation for the difference whether genetic or cultural that doesn't pin the blame entirely on white "racism".

Comment author: Desrtopa 27 March 2013 01:41:26PM *  -1 points [-]

That is a problem, but there is in fact quite a lot of racism, such that it does indeed account for quite a lot of problems.

While there are some parts of the book I take issue with (and I suspect you'd take issue with even more,) you might want to take a look at this book for lot of figures on "proactive policing" genuinely resulting in a relative arrest rate highly disproportionate to the crime rate.