D_Malik comments on Rationality Quotes April 2013 - LessWrong

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Comment author: D_Malik 04 April 2013 07:23:23AM *  37 points [-]

There once was a hare who mocked a passing tortoise for being slow. The erudite tortoise responded by challenging the hare to a race.

Built for speed, and with his pride on the line, the hare easily won - I mean, it wasn't even close - and resumed his mocking anew.

Winston Rowntree, Non-Bullshit Fables

Comment author: roystgnr 08 April 2013 06:10:33PM 6 points [-]

On the meta-level, I'm not sure "quickness beats persistence" is a helpful lesson to teach. At the scale of things many LessWrongers would hope to help accomplish, both qualities are prerequisites, and it would be a mistake to believe that you don't have to worry about the latter just because you're one of the millions of people who are 99.9th percentile at the former.

On the base level, a non-bullshit version of this fable would look more like "There once was a hare being passed by a tortoise. Neither of them could talk. The end."

Comment author: MaoShan 10 April 2013 03:32:51AM 5 points [-]

Now that you mention it, a fable, by definition, requires bullshit.

Comment author: xv15 08 April 2013 03:14:10AM 14 points [-]

I've always thought there should be a version where the hare gets eaten by a fox halfway through the race, while the tortoise plods along safely inside its armored mobile home.

Comment author: [deleted] 08 April 2013 06:13:03PM 4 points [-]
Comment author: lukeprog 08 April 2013 03:26:20AM 8 points [-]
Comment author: philh 08 April 2013 07:29:06AM 2 points [-]

On a similar note, there's http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/463/transcript - search for "Act Two".

Comment author: Zubon 08 April 2013 03:13:52AM 5 points [-]

"Moral: life is inarguably a depressingly unfair endeavor."

Comment author: orthonormal 10 April 2013 07:26:09PM 1 point [-]

FTFY:

"Moral: life is inarguably a depressingly fair endeavor."

Comment author: [deleted] 08 April 2013 06:12:05PM *  1 point [-]

What's unfair about that quote? The faster one did win. This would exemplify your moral.

Comment author: xv15 09 April 2013 05:55:24AM 2 points [-]

"Fairness" depends entirely on what you condition on. Conditional on the hare being better at racing, you could say it's fair that the hare wins. But why does the hare get to be better at racing in the first place?

Debates about what is and isn't fair are best framed as debates over what to condition on, because that's where most of the disagreement lies. (As is the case here, I suppose).

Comment author: Zubon 19 April 2013 02:04:21AM 0 points [-]

The quote is the next line from the quote source.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 April 2013 12:31:21PM 0 points [-]

Huh, okay.

Comment author: BillyOblivion 23 April 2013 01:16:01AM -1 points [-]

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3t0l49/

Sorry, saw it earlier today and couldn't resist.