Vaniver comments on Rationality Quotes April 2013 - LessWrong

6 Post author: Vaniver 08 April 2013 02:00AM

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Comment author: Vaniver 15 April 2013 05:00:55PM 1 point [-]

That link isn't clear to me. Could you please elaborate?

Comment author: shminux 15 April 2013 05:16:52PM *  0 points [-]

It's not "the iron rule", just one of many heuristics of limited applicability. Hurting instead of rewarding is often just as effective. And rewarding can also backfire in the worst way.

Comment author: Vaniver 15 April 2013 06:25:40PM 3 points [-]

It's not "the iron rule", just one of many heuristics of limited applicability. Hurting instead of rewarding is often just as effective. And rewarding can also backfire in the worst way.

Munger's quote seemed to me like a more colorful rendition of "incentives matter," which is an iron rule (as it contrasts with what people often want to be true, which is "intentions matter"). Rewards backfiring is generally mistakenly applied rewards, like sugar on the floor, and punishments seem like they can be considered as anti-rewards; you don't get what you punish (with, again, the note that precision matters).

Comment author: ChristianKl 28 April 2013 05:12:44PM 2 points [-]

The Stockholm syndrome isn't only about hurting the hostage. The captor gains control of the enviroment in which the hostage lives and then can use that control to reward the hostage for fullfilling his wishes.