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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 11 May 2013 07:11:37PM 24 points [-]

I once considered changing my name to Ben Abard but decided that the original Eliezer Yudkowsky sounded more like a scientist.

Comment author: Jack 11 May 2013 10:30:40PM 21 points [-]

I wonder how Jewish names perform relative to gentile names.

Comment author: BerryPick6 12 May 2013 08:50:10PM *  11 points [-]

Reminds me of all the Jewish actors who've changed their names to make it in Hollywood, and all the executives who've done the exact opposite.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 12 May 2013 08:04:08AM 11 points [-]

I've always been mildly annoyed that I don't have an eastern European last name. All the cool mathematicians seem to have eastern European last names.

Comment author: Darmani 12 May 2013 09:43:26AM -1 points [-]

You mean, a lot of cool mathematicians are eastern European. But Terry Tao and Shinichi Mochizuki are not.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 12 May 2013 06:57:48PM 23 points [-]

Man, this is that thing I was talking about earlier when someone takes a colloquial phrase that sounds like a universal quantifier and interprets it as literally a universal quantifier.

Comment author: ciphergoth 14 May 2013 04:19:11PM 23 points [-]

Yeah, people do that all the time.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 16 May 2013 10:30:23AM 4 points [-]

In ordinary language, all universal quantifiers are implicitly bounded.

Comment author: Creutzer 27 May 2013 03:55:28PM 2 points [-]

Actually, what's at play here is not the implicit domain restriction of natural language quantifiers, because he obviously didn't restrict the domain of the quantifier to just those mathematicians that have an Eastern European last name; that'd make the statement trivial. Rather, the phenomenon we see here is what's self-explanatorily called "loose talk", where you can say things that are strictly true when they are close enough to being true, i.e. when the exceptions don't matter for current purposes.

Comment author: Kawoomba 27 May 2013 04:00:12PM 2 points [-]

A typical failure mode for computer scientists, who typically are trained to check statements against boundary cases / extreme values, to make sure an exception isn't thrown / that the result isn't out of bounds.

Comment author: JoshuaFox 16 May 2013 06:03:12AM 3 points [-]

original Eliezer Yudkowsky sounded more like a scientist.

OK, there are disproportionately many Jewish scientists, but how else does "Eliezer Yudkowsky" sound like a scientist's name?

Now, if you really want a name that sounds like a scientist, how about renaming yourself Isaac Feynmann, Galileo Crick, or Rosalind Newton?

Comment author: ialdabaoth 16 May 2013 06:14:04AM 8 points [-]

Actually, most people will identify with a scientist's last name more than a first name - so pick a scientist's last name that sounds like a first name for your own first name, and then another last name that sounds like a last name for your last name.

I'll be Maxwell Tesla.

Comment author: dreeves 20 May 2013 04:43:36PM 1 point [-]

Too funny; those are the middle names of my kids! :)

Comment author: satt 20 May 2013 09:34:47PM 0 points [-]

I'll be Maxwell Tesla.

Maxwell Edison's probably better known....

Comment author: ialdabaoth 20 May 2013 10:52:13PM 4 points [-]

Yes, but my internal inference-checker refuses to be associated with it.

Comment author: wedrifid 21 May 2013 03:10:57AM *  1 point [-]

Maxwell Edison's probably better known....

I expect ialdabaoth wants to be thought of as a scientist, not a sociopath.

Comment author: scav 17 May 2013 04:20:27PM 0 points [-]

It reads like a pretty good scientist name. I have no idea how it sounds ;)

Comment author: ESRogs 13 August 2013 10:49:28AM 0 points [-]

Because you don't do subvocalization when you read? Or you're deaf? Or some other reason...

Comment author: scav 13 August 2013 12:27:20PM 1 point [-]

Some other reason: I just don't know how EY pronounces "Yudkowsky" -- [jʊd'kaʊski] or [ju:d'kɔvski] or otherwise.

But there is a significant overlap between great names for scientists and words that would be worth a lot in Scrabble if proper nouns were allowed.

Comment author: komponisto 13 August 2013 01:10:04PM 1 point [-]

Some other reason: I just don't know how EY pronounces "Yudkowsky" -- [jʊd'kaʊski] or [ju:d'kɔvski] or otherwise

EY pronounces it the first way, but his father pronounces it the second(!).

Comment author: [deleted] 13 August 2013 01:03:17PM 1 point [-]

Some other reason: I just don't know how EY pronounces "Yudkowsky" -- [jʊd'kaʊski] or [ju:d'kɔvski] or otherwise.

Usually that kind of names are pronounced the former way in America and the latter way in Britain, so I'd guess the former.

Comment author: komponisto 13 August 2013 01:17:38PM *  1 point [-]

Usually that kind of names are

(--> those kinds of names are / that kind of name is ;-))

pronounced the former way in America and the latter way in Britain

I would dispute that, insofar as the real truth is that the latter is used by people trying to imitate the pronunciation in the original language (a good thing to do to the extent possible, IMO), and I don't know the distribution of such people in America vs. Britain.

so I'd guess the former

...but this guess happens to be correct in the case of EY himself.