Swimmer963 comments on The Centre for Applied Rationality: a year later from a (somewhat) outside perspective - LessWrong

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Comment author: Swimmer963 29 May 2013 05:29:23AM *  3 points [-]

There is a part of the workshop; CoZE training; that is meant to build social skills. If it feels hard, it's working. But if Bayes or Value of Information classes feel hard because participants are exhausted and want to lock themselves in the bathroom alone, that doesn't help with learning the specific skills. Exercise, for example, works well with intense training and rest periods, not 4 days of constant slow jogging.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 May 2013 08:35:31AM -1 points [-]

Understanding Bayes in the abstract is quite easy. The thing that's hard is to use Bayes in your life when you are under emotional pressure.

The way it get's taught in the average statistics class doesn't give the participants the ability to use it in their daily life. Teaching it at a moment in which the people are under stress could work well to train them to be able to use it later in their daily life in situations where it matters.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 29 May 2013 08:40:08AM *  6 points [-]

There are still different levels of skills here, e.g. "learn to recognize when Bayes is relevant to a real-life situation" and then "learn to recognize when Bayes is relevant to a real-life situation even when you're under emotional stress." It's probably easier to learn the first rather than skipping directly to the second. (And for what it's worth, the Bayes unit has gone through a large number of iterations and, I have been told, has finally started working. It does indeed emphasize building habits rather than abstract understanding.)