Xodarap comments on Why Eat Less Meat? - LessWrong

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Comment author: Grant 24 July 2013 08:06:40PM *  1 point [-]

Idea: if you're very interested in promoting veganism or vegitarianism, help make it taste better, or invest in or donate to those who are helping make it taste better. As my other much-downvoted comment showed, I am very skeptical that appeals to altruism will have nearly as much of an affect as appeals to self-interest, especially outside of this community. I believe most people eat meat because it just tastes better than their alternatives.

Grown crops are far more efficient to produce than livestock, so there are plenty of other good reasons to transition away from the use of livestock in agriculture. If steak were made to "grow on trees", why pay all that extra for the real thing? If you lower the cost of vegetarianism by improving taste, more people will adopt it. If they don't adopt it they'll still be more likely to forgo meats for vegetarian dishes if those dishes taste better.

In the case of low-quality meats (e.g. McDonalds) the taste bar isn't even set very high.

When I first decided to be a vegetarian, I simply switched from tasty hamburgers to tasty veggieburgers and there was no problem at all.

I think your sample size might have lead you astray here. My personal experience is exactly the opposite. That said, I looked for studies of meat vs. faux meat taste and didn't find anything. I wonder if a love of meat over alternatives is innate or is learned, and if there exist vegetarian recipes which really do taste as good as the real thing.

Comment author: Xodarap 24 July 2013 10:46:07PM 4 points [-]

My personal experience is exactly the opposite

It varies a lot by brand. The food columnist for the New York Times couldn't tell that Beyond Meat wasn't chicken, for example.

Comment author: Grant 24 July 2013 11:09:49PM 2 points [-]

Good article, thanks. The author does say the taste was quite different from chicken, you just can't tell when its in a burrito as the chicken is mostly used for texture. The producer's website is here.

Another idea, with potentially better returns than the above: invest in faux-meat producers. There appear to be plenty of them.

Comment author: Xodarap 25 July 2013 12:29:38AM *  2 points [-]

I agree that this is potentially a high-impact avenue. New harvest is a charity which sponsors meat substitutes, both plant based and tissue engineered, if you are interested.

Comment author: Ruairi 25 July 2013 09:22:42AM 2 points [-]

You seem to be missing a link? Perhaps he meant to link to the group "new harvest".

Comment author: Xodarap 26 July 2013 12:37:06AM 1 point [-]

Thanks ruari. I had forgotten the http, which apparently makes the link invisible.