DanArmak comments on Arguments Against Speciesism - LessWrong

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Comment author: Kawoomba 28 July 2013 10:21:02PM 3 points [-]

However, such factors can't apply for ethical reasoning at a theoretical/normative level, where all the relevant variables are looked at in isolation in order to come up with a consistent ethical framework that covers all possible cases.

Why should there be a "correct" solution for ethical reasoning? Is there a normative level regarding which color is the best? People function based on heuristics, which are calibrated on general cases, not on marginal cases. While I'm all for showing inconsistencies in one's statements, there is no inconsistency in saying "as a general rule, I value X, but in these cases, I value Y, which is different from X".

Why the impetus towards some one-size-fit-all solution? And more importantly, why disallow that marginal cases get special "if-clauses"?

Imagine forcing a programmer to treat all incoming data with the exact same rule. It would be a disaster. Adding a "as a general rule" solves the inconsistencies, and it's not cheating, and it's not something in need of fixing.

Comment author: DanArmak 28 July 2013 10:44:58PM 2 points [-]

If you want your choices to be consistent over time, you still need a meta-rule for choosing and modifying your rules. How do you know what exceptions to make?

Personally, I don't think my choices (as a human) can be consistent in this sense, and I'm pretty resigned to following my inconsistent moral intuitions. Others disagree with me on this.

Comment author: Kawoomba 28 July 2013 10:51:58PM 0 points [-]

Your choices won't be consistent over time anyways, because you won't be consistent over time. For your Centenarian self, the current you is a but a distant memory.

Comment author: DanArmak 28 July 2013 10:57:26PM 1 point [-]

That my desires won't be consistent over very long periods of time, is no reason to make my choices inconsistent over short periods of time when my desires don't change much.