MugaSofer comments on Arguments Against Speciesism - LessWrong

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Comment author: MugaSofer 31 July 2013 03:03:17PM *  -2 points [-]

Do we disagree on questions of fact? On rereading this thread, I suspect not.

Well, do you disagree WRT conclusions? Are you, in fact, a vegetarian?

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 31 July 2013 03:20:06PM 1 point [-]

Nope, definitely not a vegetarian. I think that's a broader topic though.

Comment author: MugaSofer 31 July 2013 04:33:23PM *  -2 points [-]

To be absolutely clear: you agree that nonhumans are probably self-aware, feel pain, and so on and so forth, and are indeed worthy of moral consideration ... but for reasons not under discussion here, you are not a vegetarian? Fair enough, I guess.

EDIT: Apparently not.

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 31 July 2013 05:17:08PM *  4 points [-]

Huh? What? Have you been reading my posts?? Are you perhaps confusing me with someone else...? (Though I haven't seen anyone else here take the position you describe either...)

Yes, I think nonhumans almost certainly feel pain; no, I don't think they're self-aware; no, I don't think they're worthy of moral consideration.

Edit: I don't mean to be harsh on you. Illusion of transparency, I suppose?

Comment author: MugaSofer 04 August 2013 02:20:48PM -2 points [-]

Huh? What? Have you been reading my posts?? Are you perhaps confusing me with someone else...? (Though I haven't seen anyone else here take the position you describe either...)

No, not really. I just read the post where you said you two agreed on facts and was confused - this is why.