MugaSofer comments on Arguments Against Speciesism - LessWrong

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Comment author: MugaSofer 06 August 2013 01:46:27PM *  -1 points [-]

Actually, I was trying to make a joke, on the basis that the quoted section seems to imply the former.

Clearly I failed.

As an aside, have you considered applying that argument to other groups that were once disenfranchised? I'm not going to say it's wrong, but that particular exercise certainly produces a worrying number of parrallels (similar to applying spaciest arguments to racist ones, as per the parent article.)

Comment author: Jiro 06 August 2013 03:34:00PM 0 points [-]

have you considered applying that argument to other groups that were once disenfranchised?

The argument is that a smart person in such a group would agree that the rest of them are too stupid to vote. It doesn't apply to other disenfranchised groups until they actually would believe this too. I doubt that the other groups you are referring to would believe this.

Comment author: MugaSofer 18 August 2013 10:43:23PM -1 points [-]

I was thinking of women. Y'know, back in Ye Olden Days.

In general, I think, there is a tendency not to disenfranchise groups even if they are in some sense "below average", because, y'know, representation be good. Again, imagine the racist pointing out that n*s have, on average, less education than we do. Or maybe your model of Terrible People is less convincing than mine?

*he's a racist, he aint talking to Them, he's talking to Us White Guys.