KnaveOfAllTrades comments on According to Dale Carnegie, You Can't Win an Argument—and He Has a Point - LessWrong

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Comment author: hyporational 30 November 2013 12:16:03PM *  39 points [-]

"A man convinced against his will Is of the same opinion still."

I think you need a longer time span to see this is quite often false. What has happened many times is I argue with my friend or my parent and "win" while they're defending their position to the teeth. Months later, they present my argument to me as their own as if the previous discussion never happened. Some people's forgetfulness amazes me, but I suspect I've changed my mind this way without noticing too.

Admitting you're wrong is quite different from changing your mind. Even so, I hopefully don't argue to win these days anymore.

Comment author: KnaveOfAllTrades 30 November 2013 02:21:34PM 5 points [-]

+1 this memory thing is a thing.

Comment author: hyporational 30 November 2013 02:35:07PM *  2 points [-]

Good to know someone else is experiencing this too. It probably relates to the cognitive dissonance thing Chris was talking about in the earlier post, which is the reason I suspect I might be making the mistake too. I think it deserves a name of it's own, if it doesn't already have one.