ChrisHallquist comments on According to Dale Carnegie, You Can't Win an Argument—and He Has a Point - LessWrong

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Comment author: hyporational 30 November 2013 12:16:03PM *  39 points [-]

"A man convinced against his will Is of the same opinion still."

I think you need a longer time span to see this is quite often false. What has happened many times is I argue with my friend or my parent and "win" while they're defending their position to the teeth. Months later, they present my argument to me as their own as if the previous discussion never happened. Some people's forgetfulness amazes me, but I suspect I've changed my mind this way without noticing too.

Admitting you're wrong is quite different from changing your mind. Even so, I hopefully don't argue to win these days anymore.

Comment author: ChrisHallquist 30 November 2013 10:19:25PM -1 points [-]

This is definitely A Thing that happens. But I still think it's more common for people to somehow rationalize not changing their mind, even in the long run.

Comment author: hyporational 01 December 2013 05:14:17AM *  0 points [-]

I wasn't suggesting this is the only way people change their minds. I think we should concentrate on how to make it happen more often, not necessarily caring about people admitting they're wrong.