ChristianKl comments on Rationalists Are Less Credulous But Better At Taking Ideas Seriously - LessWrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 11 February 2014 04:16:33PM *  3 points [-]

Few people have the mental starmina to just teach themselves 8 hours a day via reading a few tutorials and complete free online courses.

If you go with your mattress to App Academy it takes effort to not spent time programming when all the people around you are programming.

It also likely that the enviroment will make it easy to network with other programmers.

Comment author: Lumifer 11 February 2014 04:59:18PM 1 point [-]

Few people have the mental starmina to just teach themselves 8 hours a day

It's actually a defining characteristic of hackers, except that it's more like 16 hours a day.

Comment author: ChristianKl 11 February 2014 10:56:18PM *  0 points [-]

It depends on the teacher. If you have a specific well defined project than a good hacker can work his 16 hours focused on the project.

From the people I know few have the same ability for the kind of general tutorial learning that provides broad knowledge.

I think I certainly spend many days where I spent most of my time learning but it wasn't the kind of focused learning you have in school.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 February 2014 02:40:53AM *  1 point [-]

It depends on the teacher.

Which teacher? "...mental stamina to just teach themselves"

Comment author: hyporational 11 February 2014 06:04:15PM 0 points [-]

If that's the case do you have any idea what makes them so exceptional?

Comment author: Lumifer 11 February 2014 06:22:18PM 1 point [-]

Are you asking what makes people self-motivated, have burning curiosity, and be willing to just dive headlong into new fields of study?

I have no idea, but I suspect carefully choosing one's parents helps :-)

There is also the standard stereotype of high-functioning autistics with superhuman ability to focus, but I don't know how well it corresponds to reality.

You might consider this interesting.

Comment author: hyporational 11 February 2014 06:44:38PM 0 points [-]

I do, thanks.

Comment author: V_V 11 February 2014 04:35:27PM *  0 points [-]

Few people have the mental starmina to just teach themselves 8 hours a day via reading a few tutorials and complete free online courses.

True, but I suspect that the effect of training time runs into diminishing returns well before you reach 8 hours a day, in particular after you have been doing it for a few days.

It also likely that the enviroment will make it easy to network with other programmers.

Agreed.

Comment author: ChristianKl 11 February 2014 04:56:05PM 1 point [-]

I think there are many smart people that have issues with akrasia. Being in an enviroment with other people who also work makes it much easier to just sit down and follow the course.

The fact that the deal with App Academy is that you only pay when you get a job also makes it in their interest that the logistics of the job search are settled.

For someone without a programming job the way to find work as a programmer might not seem straightforward even after completing a bunch of tutorials.

For this description the only reason I won't go to App Academy is that it's in the US. If I could just do this is a a European city I would likely pursue it because it's a path that's much more straightforward than my current one.

Comment author: V_V 11 February 2014 05:00:08PM *  0 points [-]

I'm not saying that they offer no value, I'm saying that the fact that they have high hiring ratios statistics is, by itself, not strong evidence that they offer enough value to justify their price.