VAuroch comments on Rationality Quotes April 2014 - LessWrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 April 2014 01:21:46AM 15 points [-]

A BS detection Heuristic.

You can tell if a discipline is BS if the degree depends severely on the prestige of the school granting it. I remember when I applied to MBA programs being told that anything outside the top 10 or 20 would be a waste of time. On the other hand a degree in mathematics is much less dependent on the shool (conditional on being above a certain level, so the heuristic would apply to the differene betwewn top 10 and top 2000 schools).

The same applies to research papers. In math and physics, a result posted on arXiv (with a minimum hurdle) is fine. In low quality fields like academic finance (where almost all academics are charlatans and all papers some form of complicated storytelling), the "prestige" of the journal is the sole criterion.

Nassim Taleb

Comment author: VAuroch 05 April 2014 04:48:38AM 4 points [-]

By that standard, all academic disciplines are BS disciplines.

Comment author: MugaSofer 04 May 2014 01:43:39PM *  1 point [-]

I believe that is the intended meaning, yes.

Comment author: VAuroch 04 May 2014 06:47:58PM -1 points [-]

Can't be. You can't draw a distinction within a category by separating it into two subcategories one of which is empty.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 May 2014 07:03:37PM *  2 points [-]

You can, though it's usually useless; but it also depends on whether that subcategory is always necessarily empty or it happens to be empty now but in principle it could be non-empty.

(But it's still a fallacy of grey: even if all academic disciplines were, in fact, BS disciplines, some disciplines may still be less BS than others.)

Comment author: MugaSofer 06 May 2014 08:03:38PM 1 point [-]

The category being separated is "disciplines", which divides into "BS" and "non-BS". "Academic" disciplines are thus a further subcategory of "BS" disciplines.

Actually, "academic" disciplines would probably be a subcategory of "disciplines" which is largely but not entirely subsumed by "BS" disciplines, but I don't usually demand that level of precision from witticisms.

[For the record, separating a category into two subcategories and proving one of them empty is just another way of proving the original category is identical with the non-empty subcategory. It is, indeed, valid from a technical perspective.]