eli_sennesh comments on Rationality Quotes April 2014 - LessWrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 06 April 2014 01:51:08PM 4 points [-]

Plenty of us took the Wizard's Oath as kids and still have a hard time in math classes sometimes.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 06 April 2014 01:55:14PM *  5 points [-]

I think everyone has trouble in math class, eventually.

Comment author: lmm 14 April 2014 07:00:13PM 1 point [-]

Not in my experience, unless you're talking about trouble teaching them. It's very possible to run out of classes before you hit anything truly difficult (in my country there are no more classes after Masters level, a PhD student is expected to be doing research - the american notion of "all but dissertation" provokes endless amusement, here you're "all but dissertation" from day 1).

Comment author: shminux 14 April 2014 09:11:54PM 0 points [-]

A system where a non-genius math student never faces a challenging math class would probably "provoke endless amusement" from an American grad student, since to them it means that the program is too weak to be considered serious.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 14 April 2014 07:10:56PM 0 points [-]

If you literally never had trouble in math class, you are a rare mind of the Newton/Gauss calibre, and you should go get your Field's medal before you are 40 :).

Comment author: lmm 05 May 2014 05:50:16PM 0 points [-]

I had trouble in my Masters (a combination of course choice and bad luck) and so didn't do a PhD. But we're talking about the top university in at least the country, and by some accounts the hardest non-research course in the world. I'm pretty sure that going a different route I could've got to the point of starting a PhD before hitting anything difficult.

I do sometimes think I should've chased the Fields medal, but I'm ultimately happier the way things turned out. I worked my ass off the whole time in school/university; nowadays I earn a good living doing fun things, but my evenings and weekends are my own, and I've got a much better social life.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 April 2014 02:21:18PM 0 points [-]

Amtal (or Amtal Rule) – "Common rule on primitive worlds under which something is tested to determine its limits or defects. Commonly: testing to destruction."[3] "To know a thing well, know its limits. Only when pushed beyond its tolerances will true nature be seen. – The Amtal Rule."[6]

From here. Or as I just think of it, if you don't at least have a hard time sometimes, if not fail sometimes, you're not shooting high enough.

Comment author: CronoDAS 10 April 2014 04:23:50AM 1 point [-]

If I don't get a game over at least once, the game is too easy.

Comment author: gwern 02 May 2014 10:41:53PM 0 points [-]

Is that an Umeshism?

Comment author: CronoDAS 02 May 2014 11:35:57PM 0 points [-]

Almost, but not quite. "If you never get a game over, you're playing games that are too easy" would indeed be a Umeshism, but this is a complaint about easy games rather than a suggestion that I should be playing harder ones.

Comment author: Baughn 17 April 2014 03:42:33PM 0 points [-]

Huh. Yes, I guess that in retrospect I wouldn't be the only one.