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Comment author: brazil84 13 April 2014 04:03:28PM 5 points [-]

Well - law is, in a strict sense, entirely about convincing other humans that your interpretation is correct.

Would that include drafting a fire code for buildings? Would it include negotiating a purchase and sale agreement for a business? Would it include filing a lawsuit for unpaid wages? Would it include advising a client about the possible consequences of taking a particular tax deduction?

It's hard to see how it would, and yet all of these things are regularly done by lawyers in the course of their work.

Comment author: MugaSofer 04 May 2014 01:58:53PM 1 point [-]

Would it include negotiating a purchase and sale agreement for a business? Would it include filing a lawsuit for unpaid wages?

Those are, indeed, all examples of persuading human beings.

The other two are excellent points.

Comment author: brazil84 04 May 2014 02:47:20PM 1 point [-]

Those are, indeed, all examples of persuading human beings

"persuading human beings" is not exactly the same thing as "convincing other humans that your interpretation is correct."

Besides, in negotiating an agreement much of the attorney's job consists of (1) advising his client of issues which are likely to arise; (2) helping the client to understand which issues are more important and which are less important; and (3) drafting language to address those issues. Yes, persuasion comes into it sometimes, but it's usually not primary.

Filing a lawsuit for unpaid wages can be seen as persuasion in a general sense. If Baughn wants to claim that in a strict sense, litigation is about getting other people to do stuff, then I would agree.

The other two are excellent points.

Thank you.