TheAncientGeek comments on Confused as to usefulness of 'consciousness' as a concept - LessWrong

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Comment author: TheAncientGeek 14 July 2014 06:59:35PM 1 point [-]

Your theory may not match Tegmarks, but isn't too far from Calmer's ....implicitly dualistic theory.

I am well aware that you are probably not going to be able to explain everything with no arbitrary axioms but.....fallacy of gray.....where you stop is important. If an apparently high level property is stated as ontologocally fundamental, ie irreducible, that is the essence of dualism

Comment author: [deleted] 14 July 2014 10:31:00PM 1 point [-]

I think it's a mistake to consider consciousness a high-level property. Two electrons interacting are conscious, albeit briefly and in a very limited way.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 15 July 2014 05:47:56PM *  1 point [-]

Two electrons interacting are conscious, albeit briefly and in a very limited way.

Is that a fact?

If consciousness is a lower level property...is it casually active?

And if it is a lower level property...why can't I introspect a highly detailed brain scan?

Comment author: EHeller 14 July 2014 10:37:10PM 1 point [-]

I think it's a mistake to consider consciousness a high-level property. Two electrons interacting are conscious, albeit briefly and in a very limited way.

This weakens the concept of consciousness so much as to make it no longer meaningful.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 July 2014 12:03:42AM 1 point [-]

I don't think so. It requires you to be much more precise about what it is that you care about when you are asking "is system X conscious?"