ChristianKl comments on Confused as to usefulness of 'consciousness' as a concept - LessWrong

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Comment author: Bugmaster 15 July 2014 12:21:57AM 2 points [-]

Everyone reading this, please take a moment to see whether you have any sensation that you might describe by those words.

This doesn't make sense to me. I have nothing to compare this experience of consciousness to. I know, logically speaking, that I am often unconscious (e.g. when sleeping), but there is no way -- by definition -- I can experience what that unconsciousness feels like. Thus, I cannot compare my experience of being conscious with the experience of being unconscious.

Am I missing something ? I think there are drugs that can induce the experience of unconsciousness, but I'd rather not take any kind of drugs unless it's totally necessary...

Comment author: ChristianKl 15 July 2014 09:04:23AM 2 points [-]

This doesn't make sense to me.

Then it might be that you don't have access to the sensation Richard is talking about.

I can distinguish states where I'm totally immersed in a video game and the video game world from states when I'm aware of myself and conscious of myself.

If I wanted to go more into detail I can distinguish roughly four different sensations for which I have labels under the banner of "I experience a certain sense of my own presence". There a fifth sensation that I used to mislabel as presence.

Comment author: Bugmaster 15 July 2014 12:11:51PM 4 points [-]

I can distinguish states where I'm totally immersed in a video game and the video game world from states when I'm aware of myself and conscious of myself.

Ok, so who, exactly, is it that is "totally immersed in a video game" ? If it's still you, then you have simply lost awareness of (the majority of) your body, but you are as conscious as you were before.