Strange7 comments on Confused as to usefulness of 'consciousness' as a concept - LessWrong

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Comment author: Strange7 17 July 2014 07:49:04PM 2 points [-]

Every living thing "wants" not to be killed, even plants.

There are fruits which "want" to be eaten. It's part of their life cycle. Intestinal parasites, too, although that's a bit more problematic.

Comment author: DanArmak 18 July 2014 08:20:57AM 1 point [-]

Fruits are just parts of a plant, not whole living things. Similarly you might say that somatic cells "want" to die after a few divisions because otherwise they risk turning into a cancer.

Parasites that don't die when they are eaten obviously don't count for not wanting to be killed.

Comment author: Strange7 20 July 2014 01:55:35AM 1 point [-]

Take an apple off the tree, put it in the ground, there's a decent chance it'll grow into a new tree. How is that not a "whole living thing?" If some animal ate the apple first, derived metabolic benefits from the juicy part and shat out the seeds intact, that seed would be no less likely to grow. Possibly more so, with nutrient-rich excrement for it's initial load of fertilizer.

Comment author: DanArmak 20 July 2014 04:50:51AM 1 point [-]

Fine. But these fruit don't want to be killed, just eaten.