ChristianKl comments on Crossing the History-Lessons Threshold - LessWrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 17 October 2014 08:09:35PM *  1 point [-]

I don't believe that it's strong evidence. It's more like a pointer to illustrate an idea. Furthermore the version of history that says that other countries copied the prussian school system is quite popular. Hegel also sometimes get cited for inventing history.

Comment author: AnthonyC 18 October 2014 12:53:23PM 5 points [-]

Hegel also sometimes get cited for inventing history.

I'm pretty sure you need to go back to at least Herodotus to get that title.

Comment author: ChristianKl 18 October 2014 01:02:15PM *  1 point [-]

Herodotus wrote down a list of things that happened in the past. On the other hand he didn't have a sense of history that's about society progressing.

The Roman did value accounts of the ancients and the value of the knowledge of the ancients. They feared that their society declined. That's very different from the modern idea of history where societies progress. That notion is often attributed to Hegel.

Comment author: hairyfigment 18 October 2014 07:23:45PM 3 points [-]

Yes, but the Romans also had a guy talking about 'a new order of the ages,' bringing back the Golden Age. Christianity had the idea of Christ returning once the Gospel had reached everywhere. Both Descartes and Bacon made sweeping claims about the benefits of secular investigation.

Comment author: ChristianKl 18 October 2014 11:32:54PM 0 points [-]

Bringing back the Golden Age, assumes that you could just go back. That's very different from the modern notion of history as something that progresses.