Lumifer comments on When the uncertainty about the model is higher than the uncertainty in the model - LessWrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 01 December 2014 04:07:07PM 1 point [-]

But some ad hoc adjustments are better than others.

You keep asserting that but provide no arguments and don't explain what do you mean by "better".

Black-Scholes has been clearly wrong for a long time

Huh? Black-Scholes doesn't tell you what the price of the option is because you don't know one of the inputs (volatility). Black-Scholes is effectively a mapping function between price and volatility.

So use it, and add ad hoc adjustments

I don't understand what do you mean. In situations where Black-Scholes does not apply (e.g. you have discontinuities, aka price gaps) people use different models. Volatility smile is not a "patch" on Black-Scholes, it's an empirically observed characteristic of prices in the market and Black-Scholes is perfectly fine with it (again, being a mapping between volatility and price).

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 01 December 2014 04:49:22PM 0 points [-]

You keep asserting that but provide no arguments and don't explain what do you mean by "better".

The two examples in the post here are not sufficient?

Volatility smile is not a "patch" on Black-Scholes, it's an empirically observed characteristic of prices in the market and Black-Scholes is perfectly fine with it (again, being a mapping between volatility and price).

From the Wikipedia article on the subject "This anomaly implies deficiencies in the standard Black-Scholes option pricing model which assumes constant volatility..."

Comment author: Lumifer 01 December 2014 05:15:23PM 2 points [-]

The two examples in the post here are not sufficient?

The two examples being the 20-sigma move and the volatility smile?

In the first example, I don't see how applying an ad hoc multiplier to a standard deviation either is "better" or makes any sense at all. In the second example, I don't think the volatility smile is an ad hoc adjustment to Black-Scholes.

This anomaly implies deficiencies

The Black-Scholes model, like any other model, has assumptions. As is common, in real life some of these assumptions get broken. That's fine because that happens to all models.

I have the impression that you think Black-Scholes tells you what the price of the option should be. That is not correct. Black-Scholes, as I said, is just a mapping function between price and implied volatility that holds by arbitrage (again, within the assumptions of the Black-Scholes model).