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The sex example is more concrete. This new one blurs the point.
Your revised example is just as prone to that, isn't it?
Which makes me guess (I know, guessing is rude, sorry) that this isn't your real objection, and you're just reacting to the keyword "contraceptives".
It doesn't look to me as if fubarobfusco's example is as prone to that problem.
With the original example:
With fubarobfusco's modified version:
Perhaps fubarobfusco is "reacting to the keyword 'contraceptives'" in the following sense: he sees that word, recognizes that there is a whole lot of political/religious controversy around it, and feels that it would be best avoided. I'm not sure there's anything wrong with that.
Hm. Yeah, point taken, though I'd probably have to be American to be able to take this seriously on a gut level.
Still, the original example was clearer. It had a clear opposition, Bad according to genes, Good according to humans (even if not all of them). The modified example would lose that, as people generally do leave, and want to leave, descendants. It doesn't convey that sense of a sharp break with the "original intention".
Can't seem to think of an equally strong example that would be less likely to be objectionable...