Lumifer comments on The Truth About Mathematical Ability - LessWrong

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Comment author: IlyaShpitser 13 February 2015 12:26:38PM *  6 points [-]

Causal stories in particular.

I actually disagree that having a good intuitive grasp of "stories" of this type is not a math thing, or a part of the descriptive statistics magisterium (unless you think graphical models are descriptive statistics). "Oh but maybe there is confounder X" quickly becomes a maze of twisty passages where it is easy to get lost.


"Math things" is thinking carefully.


I think equating lots of derivation mistakes or whatever with poor math ability is: (a) toxic and (b) wrong. I think the innate ability/genius model of successful mathematicians is (a) toxic and (b) wrong. I further think that a better model for a successful mathematician is someone who is past a certain innate ability threshold who has the drive to keep going and the morale to not give up. To reiterate, I believe for most folks who post here the dominating term is drive and morale, not ability (of course drive and morale are also partly hereditary).

Comment author: Lumifer 13 February 2015 03:31:15PM *  2 points [-]

"Math things" is thinking carefully.

"Thinking carefully" is necessary but not sufficient for "math things".

a better model for a successful mathematician is someone who is past a certain innate ability threshold who has the drive to keep going and the morale to not give up

I don't know about that -- there are opportunity costs. Let's say you're smart, and conscientious, and have good analytical skills, etc., but not particularly good at math. Yes, you can probably make a passable mathematician if you persevere and sink a lot of time and effort into learning math. But since math is not your strong point, you probably would have made a better X (social scientist, hedge manager, biologist, etc.) with a lot less effort and frustration. Thus going for math would be a losing move.

And, of course, this.