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Comment author: JonahSinick 12 February 2015 05:27:23AM 2 points [-]

I have no insight to offer here but I would just like to say a very very interesting post.

Thanks!

I had no idea this was the case. Again, nor am I in the Grothendieck category, but I am very uneven in abilities too. I thought I was an exception in that regard.

Yvain / Scott Alexander is another example. See section 2 of his post The Parable Of Talents. I agree with most of what he says and find his post is quite insightful. But I think that his assessment of his mathematical ability is probably wrong, even though him struggling to get a C- in calculus probably reflects some sort of innate difference between his classmates. In fact, observing this was one of the proximate causes for me writing on the nature of mathematical ability.

Comment author: [deleted] 13 February 2015 05:30:33PM 1 point [-]

But I think that his assessment of his mathematical ability is probably wrong, even though him struggling to get a C- in calculus probably reflects some sort of innate difference between his classmates.

Anecdata: I got an A in Calculus 1, a C+ in Calculus 2, and an A- in Calculus 3. Of them all, Calculus 2 seemed to be the most focused on "memorize this bunch of unjustified heuristics", and Calculus 3 was one of the first and only times I really experienced the Wonders of Math in an actual course.

Oh, and for further anecdata, without being able to convert to letter grades, I got a 75% in Statistics 1 and failed (post-grad level) Intro to Machine Learning last year due to taking the courses without the continuous probability-theory prereq, and then retook Machine Learning this year to get an 86%.

It seems to me that a lot of variation in math grades can be very easily explained by differences in previous preparation.

Comment author: TobyBartels 16 February 2015 05:03:40AM *  2 points [-]

As someone whose day-job largely consists of teaching Calculus 1, 2, and 3, I heartily with you about what they are like! If I could redesign the curriculum from scratch, Calculus 3 would definitely come before Calculus 2 (for the most part), and far fewer people would be required to ever take Calculus 2 at all.

ETA: I'm talking about the curriculum in most colleges in the U.S., so I hope that you are too; other countries' curricula can vary a lot.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 February 2015 12:26:29PM 2 points [-]

Calc 3 for me was Multivariate Calculus.

Actually, yeah, requiring more people to take Multivariate Calculus and fewer people to take Assorted Sequence/Series and Integration Heuristics sounds like a fine idea.

Comment author: TobyBartels 17 February 2015 02:33:22AM 1 point [-]

Yep, sounds like we're talking about the same curriculum.