Chat Logs/2009-04-11

The following is a mostly-complete, slightly-edited log of the Less Wrong IRC chat from April 11, 2009.2009.

The following is a mostly-complete, slightly-edited log of the Less Wrong IRC chat from Apr.April 11, 2009.

See Chat Logslogs for a list of other chat logs.

• Chat Logs/2009-04-11
  • Date: Apr. 11, 2009
  • Main Participants:
    • AdeleneDawner
    • Eliezer
    • EliezerWatches
    • EnglishGent
    • ErikMesoy
    • Erkbot
    • Grey_Fox
    • GuySrinivasan
    • Infotropism
    • KajSotala
    • LeopoldTal
    • MichaelGR
    • MosaSaur
    • PeerInfinity
    • Roland_LW
    • Stormoog
    • Stormoog_
    • Wolfbot
    • Xuenay
    • Yvain
    • chronophasiac
    • ciphergoth
    • dfranke
    • jimrandomh
    • komponisto
    • michaelblume
    • rwallace
    • saturnnn
    • smoofra
    • steven0461
    • stillflame
    • taw
    • timewarp
    • vnesov
    • wpearson
  • Other people present:
    • Boxo
    • EliezerIsWatchin
    • EliezerYudkowsky
    • Evercat
    • MattSimpson
    • Set
    • SomeGuyM
    • Tiiba
    • Topic
    • Traveler2
    • abd_uz_zahir
    • mib_1dg94ml0
    • mib_983n4c
    • mib_cwvwwh
    • mib_veqt8v
    • neverwrong
    • noko
    • paulp_
    • pengvado
    • taiyo
    • tarbo2
    • vnesov_watches
    • wpearson_lurk
  • Topics:
    • Accelerating Future
    • C2 wiki
    • IRC chatlogs
    • LISP
    • Paranoid Debating
    • Paranoid Debating bot creation
    • Solomonoff's lightsaber
    • TVTropes
    • Turing Computability
    • Werewolf
    • avoiding meta-topics
    • computer science
    • everything list
    • irc meeting times
    • mafia bot
    • reasons for rejecting religion at a young age
    • using the wiki
    • wikipedia

• Chat Logs/2009-04-11
  • Date: Apr. 11, 2009
  • Main Participants:
    • IRC: AdeleneDawner
    • IRC: Eliezer
    • IRC: EliezerWatches
    • IRC: EnglishGent
    • IRC: ErikMesoy
    • IRC: Erkbot
    • IRC: Grey_Fox
    • IRC: GuySrinivasan
    • IRC: Infotropism
    • IRC: KajSotala
    • IRC: LeopoldTal
    • IRC: MichaelGR
    • IRC: MosaSaur
    • IRC: PeerInfinity
    • IRC: Roland_LW
    • IRC: Stormoog
    • IRC: Stormoog_
    • IRC: Wolfbot
    • IRC: Xuenay
    • IRC: Yvain
    • IRC: chronophasiac
    • IRC: ciphergoth
    • IRC: dfranke
    • IRC: jimrandomh
    • IRC: komponisto
    • IRC: michaelblume
    • IRC: rwallace
    • IRC: saturnnn
    • IRC: smoofra
    • IRC: steven0461
    • IRC: stillflame
    • IRC: taw
    • IRC: timewarp
    • IRC: vnesov
    • IRC: wpearson
  • Other people present:
    • IRC: Boxo
    • IRC: EliezerIsWatchin
    • IRC: EliezerYudkowsky
    • IRC: Evercat
    • IRC: MattSimpson
    • IRC: Set
    • IRC: SomeGuyM
    • IRC: Tiiba
    • IRC: Topic
    • IRC: Traveler2
    • IRC: abd_uz_zahir
    • IRC: mib_1dg94ml0
    • IRC: mib_983n4c
    • IRC: mib_cwvwwh
    • IRC: mib_veqt8v
    • IRC: neverwrong
    • IRC: noko
    • IRC: paulp_
    • IRC: pengvado
    • IRC: taiyo
    • IRC: tarbo2
    • IRC: vnesov_watches
    • IRC: wpearson_lurk
  • Topics:
    • Accelerating Future
    • C2 wiki
    • IRC chatlogs
    • LISP
    • Paranoid Debating
    • Paranoid Debating bot creation
    • Solomonoff's lightsaber
    • TVTropes
    • Turing Computability
    • Werewolf
    • avoiding meta-topics
    • computer science
    • everything list
    • irc meeting times
    • mafia bot
    • reasons for rejecting religion at a young age
    • using the wiki
    • wikipedia

• Session Start: Sat Apr 11 15:15:47 2009
• Session Ident: #lesswrong
• [11:32] IRC: Topic is 'Discussion on the topics of lesswrong.com and overcomingbias.com�com?'
• [11:32] IRC: Set by ciphergoth on Thu Apr 02 17:08:44
• [11:33] IRC: timewarp:timewarp: Is that rational? :)
• [11:34] IRC: Xuenay was irrational enough to go play online Civ4 FfH instead of waiting for the meetup
• [11:40] IRC: MosaSaur:MosaSaur: how long till the meetup?
• [11:41] IRC: jimrandomh:jimrandomh: 2h20m
• [11:41] IRC: MosaSaur:MosaSaur: thank jim, I forgot there was one but now I am counting the minutes ...
• [11:50] IRC: timewarp:timewarp: So what happens? Body shots? Strippers?
• [11:52] IRC: ErikMesoy:ErikMesoy: Mind-altering substances. For a sufficiently broad definition of "substances". ;)
• [11:54] IRC: Grey_Fox:Grey_Fox: religious level broadness
• [11:54] IRC: Grey_Fox:Grey_Fox: :p
• [11:57] IRC: pengvado has joined #lesswrong
• [12:04] IRC: MosaSaur:MosaSaur: vacuum pumps
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox:Grey_Fox: so timewarp
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox:Grey_Fox: I gotta teach you computer science
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox:Grey_Fox: or someone computer science
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox:Grey_Fox: if I don't, I'll die!
• [12:05] IRC: AdeleneDawner has joined #lesswrong
• [12:05] IRC: jimrandomh:jimrandomh: Show of hands: how many computer scientists or programmers, and how many aren't?
• [12:05] IRC: jimrandomh has a computer science degree
• [12:05] IRC: ErikMesoy:ErikMesoy: Grey_Fox: Do you mean "I need to talk to someone about computer science"? Because I could pretend to listen and nod from time to time.
• [12:06] IRC: ErikMesoy has taken programming courses but doesn't have a degree.
• [12:06] IRC: Grey_Fox:Grey_Fox: lol
• [12:06] IRC: Grey_Fox is undergoing a degree
• [12:07] IRC: MosaSaur:MosaSaur: python programmer here, started out as a social psychologist
• [12:07] IRC: PeerInfinity:PeerInfinity: hi Adelene :)
• [12:07] IRC: jimrandomh:jimrandomh: Any non-programmers?
• [12:07] IRC: PeerInfinity is a programmer :)
• [12:07] IRC: AdeleneDawner:AdeleneDawner: Hiay Peer. ^.^ *hug*
• [12:07] IRC: PeerInfinity:PeerInfinity: *hugs* :D
• [12:07] IRC: AdeleneDawner codes.
• [12:08] IRC: PeerInfinity has a Computer Science degree :)
• [12:09] IRC: jimrandomh:jimrandomh: Ok, I feel a sudden need to one-up
• [12:09] IRC: jimrandomh has *two* Computer Science degrees
• [12:10] IRC: jimrandomh:jimrandomh: Hmm
• [12:10] IRC: Grey_Fox:Grey_Fox: lol
• [12:10] IRC: PeerInfinity has a Joint Honours degree in Computer Science and Mathematics, actually :)
• [12:10] IRC: jimrandomh:jimrandomh: Maybe Less Wrong should have some articles about applying rationality to debugging and programming
• [12:10] IRC: ErikMesoy:ErikMesoy: Possibly more interesting question: What are there more of hanging around LW, theists or non-(computer scientists/programmers)?
• [12:11] IRC: jimrandomh:jimrandomh: I suspect that active posters and lurkers are demographically different
• [12:11] IRC: jimrandomh:jimrandomh: that complicates things
• [12:11] IRC: MosaSaur:MosaSaur: to me, degrees signal slave mentality
• [12:13] IRC: PeerInfinity is

• Chat Logs/2009-04-11
  • Date: Apr. 11, 2009
  • Main Participants:
    • IRC: AdeleneDawner
    • IRC: Eliezer
    • IRC: EliezerWatches
    • IRC: EnglishGent
    • IRC: ErikMesoy
    • IRC: Erkbot
    • IRC: Grey_Fox
    • IRC: GuySrinivasan
    • IRC: Infotropism
    • IRC: KajSotala
    • IRC: LeopoldTal
    • IRC: MichaelGR
    • IRC: MosaSaur
    • IRC: PeerInfinity
    • IRC: Roland_LW
    • IRC: Stormoog
    • IRC: Stormoog_
    • IRC: Wolfbot
    • IRC: Xuenay
    • IRC: Yvain
    • IRC: chronophasiac
    • IRC: ciphergoth
    • IRC: dfranke
    • IRC: jimrandomh
    • IRC: komponisto
    • IRC: michaelblume
    • IRC: rwallace
    • IRC: saturnnn
    • IRC: smoofra
    • IRC: steven0461
    • IRC: stillflame
    • IRC: taw
    • IRC: timewarp
    • IRC: vnesov
    • IRC: wpearson
  • Other people present:
    • IRC: Boxo
    • IRC: EliezerIsWatchin
    • IRC: EliezerYudkowsky
    • IRC: Evercat
    • IRC: MattSimpson
    • IRC: Set
    • IRC: SomeGuyM
    • IRC: Tiiba
    • IRC: Topic
    • IRC: Traveler2
    • IRC: abd_uz_zahir
    • IRC: mib_1dg94ml0
    • IRC: mib_983n4c
    • IRC: mib_cwvwwh
    • IRC: mib_veqt8v
    • IRC: neverwrong
    • IRC: noko
    • IRC: paulp_
    • IRC: pengvado
    • IRC: taiyo
    • IRC: tarbo2
    • IRC: vnesov_watches
    • IRC: wpearson_lurk
  • Topics:
    • Accelerating Future
    • C2 wiki
    • IRC chatlogs
    • LISP
    • Paranoid Debating
    • Paranoid Debating bot creation
    • Solomonoff's lightsaber
    • TVTropes
    • Turing Computability
    • Werewolf
    • avoiding meta-topics
    • computer science
    • everything list
    • irc meeting times
    • mafia bot
    • reasons for rejecting religion at a young age
    • using the wiki
    • wikipedia

• Session Start: Sat Apr 11 15:15:47 2009
• Session Ident: #lesswrong
• [11:32] IRC: Topic is 'Discussion on the topics of lesswrong.com and overcomingbias.com�'
• [11:32] IRC: Set by ciphergoth on Thu Apr 02 17:08:44
• [11:33] IRC: timewarp: Is that rational? :)
• [11:34] IRC: Xuenay was irrational enough to go play online Civ4 FfH instead of waiting for the meetup
• [11:40] IRC: MosaSaur: how long till the meetup?
• [11:41] IRC: jimrandomh: 2h20m
• [11:41] IRC: MosaSaur: thank jim, I forgot there was one but now I am counting the minutes ...
• [11:50] IRC: timewarp: So what happens? Body shots? Strippers?
• [11:52] IRC: ErikMesoy: Mind-altering substances. For a sufficiently broad definition of "substances". ;)
• [11:54] IRC: Grey_Fox: religious level broadness
• [11:54] IRC: Grey_Fox: :p
• [11:57] IRC: pengvado has joined #lesswrong
• [12:04] IRC: MosaSaur: vacuum pumps
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox: so timewarp
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox: I gotta teach you computer science
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox: or someone computer science
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox: if I don't, I'll die!
• [12:05] IRC: AdeleneDawner has joined #lesswrong
• [12:05] IRC: jimrandomh: Show of hands: how many computer scientists or programmers, and how many aren't?
• [12:05] IRC: jimrandomh has a computer science degree
• [12:05] IRC: ErikMesoy: Grey_Fox: Do you mean "I need to talk to someone about computer science"? Because I could pretend to listen and nod from time to time.
• [12:06] IRC: ErikMesoy has taken programming courses but doesn't have a degree.
• [12:06] IRC: Grey_Fox: lol
• [12:06] IRC: Grey_Fox is undergoing a degree
• [12:07] IRC: MosaSaur: python programmer here, started out as a social psychologist
• [12:07] IRC: PeerInfinity: hi Adelene :)
• [12:07] IRC: jimrandomh: Any non-programmers?
• [12:07] IRC: PeerInfinity is a programmer :)
• [12:07] IRC: AdeleneDawner: Hiay Peer. ^.^ *hug*
• [12:07] IRC: PeerInfinity: *hugs* :D
• [12:07] IRC: AdeleneDawner codes.
• [12:08] IRC: PeerInfinity has a Computer Science degree :)
• [12:09] IRC: jimrandomh: Ok, I feel a sudden need to one-up
• [12:09] IRC: jimrandomh has *two* Computer Science degrees
• [12:10] IRC: jimrandomh: Hmm
• [12:10] IRC: Grey_Fox: lol
• [12:10] IRC: PeerInfinity has a Joint Honours degree in Computer Science and Mathematics, actually :)
• [12:10] IRC: jimrandomh: Maybe Less Wrong should have some articles about applying rationality to debugging and programming
• [12:10] IRC: ErikMesoy: Possibly more interesting question: What are there more of hanging around LW, theists or non-(computer scientists/programmers)?
• [12:11] IRC: jimrandomh: I suspect that active posters and lurkers are demographically different
• [12:11] IRC: jimrandomh: that complicates things
• [12:11] IRC: MosaSaur: to me, degrees signal slave mentality
• [12:13] IRC: PeerInfinity is

The following is a mostly-complete, slightly-edited log of the Less Wrong IRC chat from Apr. 11, 2009.

See Chat Logs for a list of other chat logs.

• Chat Logs/2009-04-11
  • Date: Apr. 11, 2009
  • Main Participants:
    • IRC: AdeleneDawner
    • IRC: Eliezer
    • IRC: EliezerWatches
    • IRC: EnglishGent
    • IRC: ErikMesoy
    • IRC: Erkbot
    • IRC: Grey_Fox
    • IRC: GuySrinivasan
    • IRC: Infotropism
    • IRC: KajSotala
    • IRC: LeopoldTal
    • IRC: MichaelGR
    • IRC: MosaSaur
    • IRC: PeerInfinity
    • IRC: Roland_LW
    • IRC: Stormoog
    • IRC: Stormoog_
    • IRC: Wolfbot
    • IRC: Xuenay
    • IRC: Yvain
    • IRC: chronophasiac
    • IRC: ciphergoth
    • IRC: dfranke
    • IRC: jimrandomh
    • IRC: komponisto
    • IRC: michaelblume
    • IRC: rwallace
    • IRC: saturnnn
    • IRC: smoofra
    • IRC: steven0461
    • IRC: stillflame
    • IRC: taw
    • IRC: timewarp
    • IRC: vnesov
    • IRC: wpearson
  • Other people present:
    • IRC: Boxo
    • IRC: EliezerIsWatchin
    • IRC: EliezerYudkowsky
    • IRC: Evercat
    • IRC: MattSimpson
    • IRC: Set
    • IRC: SomeGuyM
    • IRC: Tiiba
    • IRC: Topic
    • IRC: Traveler2
    • IRC: abd_uz_zahir
    • IRC: mib_1dg94ml0
    • IRC: mib_983n4c
    • IRC: mib_cwvwwh
    • IRC: mib_veqt8v
    • IRC: neverwrong
    • IRC: noko
    • IRC: paulp_
    • IRC: pengvado
    • IRC: taiyo
    • IRC: tarbo2
    • IRC: vnesov_watches
    • IRC: wpearson_lurk
  • Topics:
    • Paranoid Debating

• Session Start: Sat Apr 11 15:15:47 2009
• Session Ident: #lesswrong
• [11:32] IRC: Topic is 'Discussion on the topics of lesswrong.com and overcomingbias.com�'
• [11:32] IRC: Set by ciphergoth on Thu Apr 02 17:08:44
• [11:33] IRC: timewarp: Is that rational? :)
• [11:34] IRC: Xuenay was irrational enough to go play online Civ4 FfH instead of waiting for the meetup
• [11:40] IRC: MosaSaur: how long till the meetup?
• [11:41] IRC: jimrandomh: 2h20m
• [11:41] IRC: MosaSaur: thank jim, I forgot there was one but now I am counting the minutes ...
• [11:50] IRC: timewarp: So what happens? Body shots? Strippers?
• [11:52] IRC: ErikMesoy: Mind-altering substances. For a sufficiently broad definition of "substances". ;)
• [11:54] IRC: Grey_Fox: religious level broadness
• [11:54] IRC: Grey_Fox: :p
• [11:57] IRC: pengvado has joined #lesswrong
• [12:04] IRC: MosaSaur: vacuum pumps
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox: so timewarp
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox: I gotta teach you computer science
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox: or someone computer science
• [12:04] IRC: Grey_Fox: if I don't, I'll die!
• [12:05] IRC: AdeleneDawner has joined #lesswrong
• [12:05] IRC: jimrandomh: Show of hands: how many computer scientists or programmers, and how many aren't?
• [12:05] IRC: jimrandomh has a computer science degree
• [12:05] IRC: ErikMesoy: Grey_Fox: Do you mean "I need to talk to someone about computer science"? Because I could pretend to listen and nod from time to time.
• [12:06] IRC: ErikMesoy has taken programming courses but doesn't have a degree.
• [12:06] IRC: Grey_Fox: lol
• [12:06] IRC: Grey_Fox is undergoing a degree
• [12:07] IRC: MosaSaur: python programmer here, started out as a social psychologist
• [12:07] IRC: PeerInfinity: hi Adelene :)
• [12:07] IRC: jimrandomh: Any non-programmers?
• [12:07] IRC: PeerInfinity is a programmer :)
• [12:07] IRC: AdeleneDawner: Hiay Peer. ^.^ *hug*
• [12:07] IRC: PeerInfinity: *hugs* :D
• [12:07] IRC: AdeleneDawner codes.
• [12:08] IRC: PeerInfinity has a Computer Science degree :)
• [12:09] IRC: jimrandomh: Ok, I feel a sudden need to one-up
• [12:09] IRC: jimrandomh has *two* Computer Science degrees
• [12:10] IRC: jimrandomh: Hmm
• [12:10] IRC: Grey_Fox: lol
• [12:10] IRC: PeerInfinity has a Joint Honours degree in Computer Science and Mathematics, actually :)
• [12:10] IRC: jimrandomh: Maybe Less Wrong should have some articles about applying rationality to debugging and programming
• [12:10] IRC: ErikMesoy: Possibly more interesting question: What are there more of hanging around LW, theists or non-(computer scientists/programmers)?
• [12:11] IRC: jimrandomh: I suspect that active posters and lurkers are demographically different
• [12:11] IRC: jimrandomh: that complicates things
• [12:11] IRC: MosaSaur: to me, degrees signal slave mentality
• [12:13] IRC: