"Phyg" and "phygish" are used a lot. I'm looking for recommendations on how to define them without putting this page in the wrong Google index. --R claypool 15:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
What counts as jargon?
I've recently had an addition or two of mine removed form the jargon file that I disagree with. So let me explain why I've been adding them.
I'm happy to take the definition of jargon to be "the language, especially the vocabulary, peculiar to a particular trade, profession, or group"
Now, I'm a reasonably well-read lay-person, but every so often, when I'm reading a discussion in comments, I'll come upon a word that I have to go look up on wikipedia to understand it before I can figure out what the commenters are talking about.
I consider most examples of this happening to mean that they're using a word that is jargon. In most cases - the words I've not understood were philosophical jargon... ie you have to have studied at least a solid base of philosophy to understand what they mean without reaching for the dictionary.
I'd consider words such as utilitarianism, consequentialism and deontology to be good examples of such philosophical jargon. I might guess at what I think they might mean - but to be sure - a definition (and link to a better explanation) is a good idea to have on hand... and therefore I added them to the jargon file.
The reason being that: if a complete newbie (such as myself) doesn't understand them... then so will other newbies - and we are excluded unnecessarily from the conversation.
My argument is in favour of allowing these words in the jargon file for this reason.
Content of this article
Should this article be a list of Jargon with short descriptions or just repeat the contents of Category:Jargon? MrHen 16:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Random idea: Make this article a list of Jargon with short descriptions, and transclude the contents of this article onto the category page. The reason for duplicating the content on the category page is because when browsing through the category trees, users will often end up on the category page, rather than the article page. --PeerInfinity 17:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Unclear and hard to use
Unless there's overwhelming objection, I'm going to merge the acronyms list to this article and reformat it more like a list of short definitions for the newbie, like most jargon lists I've seen. (Certainly it shouldn't be spread over two pages as it is now, with this page not actually providing any explanations at all.) This should be a single-point info list for n00bs - David Gerard 09:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
No objections, so I've done this. Do of course feel free to fix any of my quick definitions you don't like - David Gerard 18:49, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
From the old LessWrong Wiki Discussion Page:
Talk:Jargon
Phyg and Phygish
"Phyg" and "phygish" are used a lot. I'm looking for recommendations on how to define them without putting this page in the wrong Google index. --R claypool 15:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
What counts as jargon?
I've recently had an addition or two of mine removed form the jargon file that I disagree with. So let me explain why I've been adding them.
I'm happy to take the definition of jargon to be "the language, especially the vocabulary, peculiar to a particular trade, profession, or group"
Now, I'm a reasonably well-read lay-person, but every so often, when I'm reading a discussion in comments, I'll come upon a word that I have to go look up on wikipedia to understand it before I can figure out what the commenters are talking about.
I consider most examples of this happening to mean that they're using a word that is jargon. In most cases - the words I've not understood were philosophical jargon... ie you have to have studied at least a solid base of philosophy to understand what they mean without reaching for the dictionary.
I'd consider words such as utilitarianism, consequentialism and deontology to be good examples of such philosophical jargon. I might guess at what I think they might mean - but to be sure - a definition (and link to a better explanation) is a good idea to have on hand... and therefore I added them to the jargon file.
The reason being that: if a complete newbie (such as myself) doesn't understand them... then so will other newbies - and we are excluded unnecessarily from the conversation.
My argument is in favour of allowing these words in the jargon file for this reason.
Content of this article
Should this article be a list of Jargon with short descriptions or just repeat the contents of Category:Jargon? MrHen 16:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Random idea: Make this article a list of Jargon with short descriptions, and transclude the contents of this article onto the category page. The reason for duplicating the content on the category page is because when browsing through the category trees, users will often end up on the category page, rather than the article page. --PeerInfinity 17:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Unclear and hard to use
Unless there's overwhelming objection, I'm going to merge the acronyms list to this article and reformat it more like a list of short definitions for the newbie, like most jargon lists I've seen. (Certainly it shouldn't be spread over two pages as it is now, with this page not actually providing any explanations at all.) This should be a single-point info list for n00bs - David Gerard 09:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
No objections, so I've done this. Do of course feel free to fix any of my quick definitions you don't like - David Gerard 18:49, 21 April 2011 (UTC)