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Comment author: Caravelle 24 July 2011 09:49:49PM 4 points [-]

That doesn't help much. If people were told they were going to be murdered in a painless way (or something not particularly painful - for example, a shot for someone who isn't afraid of needles and has no problem getting vaccinated) most would consider this a threat and would try to avoid it.

I think most people's practical attitude towards death is a bit like Syrio Forel from Game of Thrones - "not today". We learn to accept that we'll die someday, we might even be okay with it, but we prefer to have it happen as far in the future as we can manage.

Signing up for cryonics is an attempt to avoid dying tomorrow - but we're not that worried about dying tomorrow. Getting out of a burning building means we avoid dying today.

(whether this is a refinement of how to understand our behaviour around death, or a potential generalized utility function, I couldn't say).

Comment author: AbyCodes 25 July 2011 09:00:50AM 1 point [-]

I was just pointing to the opinion that, not everyone who tries to escape from death are actually afraid of death per se. They might have other reasons.

Comment author: AbyCodes 24 July 2011 11:23:11AM *  2 points [-]

Why aren't there dojos that teach rationality?

There is. Buddhist temples in the Himalayas (Bhutan and the neighbouring countries) and remote china. I lived in Bhutan as a child. All buddhist monks lived their lifes' in monasteries; meditating, contemplating, doing the daily chores, in introspection and following the teachings of Buddha. Isn't that a "dojo of rationality"?

How to communicate procedural skills of rationality, or measure them, is probably the single largest open issue that stands between humanity and rationality dojos - at least it's the part of the problem that most baffles me.

Discussion; as is with every other field.

Comment author: AbyCodes 24 July 2011 07:19:52AM *  1 point [-]

quoted text if you were in a burning building, you would try pretty hard to get out. Therefore, you must strongly dislike death and want to avoid it. But if you strongly dislike death and want to avoid it, you must be lying when you say you accept death as a natural part of life and think it's crass and selfish to try to cheat the Reaper.

Won't it be the case that someone who tries to escape from a burning building, does so, just to avoid the pain and suffering it inflicts? It would be such a drag to be burned alive rather than a peaceful painless poison death.