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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 24 October 2014 06:20:14AM *  28 points [-]

Most comments show exactly one downvote without a clear pattern why. I'd guess that a single person downvoted all these short comments. Can it be that this user doesn't know the custom of upvoting survey-takers?

ADDED 2014-10-25T16:20 UTC: The single downvotes disappeared.

ADDED 2014-10-26T21:10 UTC: The single downvotes reappeared again (at least for a lot of high scoring comments).

Comment author: Adele_L 31 October 2014 05:47:25PM 0 points [-]

Almost everyone has a downvote again. What's more interesting is the short list of people who don't...

Comment author: TobyBartels 30 October 2014 05:44:06AM 2 points [-]

It has been reported here that largest volume, longest length, and largest mass all give the same result.

Comment author: Adele_L 31 October 2014 05:36:13PM 0 points [-]

That still doesn't help for the purposes of calibration, when you have uncertainty over whether these are all the same.

Comment author: Nornagest 30 October 2014 10:21:22PM *  2 points [-]

I agree about all of that except for contrarianism (and yes, I'm aware of the irony). You want to have some amount of contrarianism in your ecosystem, because people sometimes aren't satisfied with the hivemind and they need a place to go when that happens. Sometimes they need solutions that work where the mainstream answers wouldn't, because they fall into a weird corner case or because they're invisible to the mainstream for some other reason. Sometimes they just want emotional support. And sometimes they want an argument, and there's a place for that too.

What you don't want is for the community's default response to be "find the soft bits of this statement, and then go after them like a pack of starving hyenas tearing into a pinata made entirely of ham". There need to be safe topics and safe stances, or people will just stop engaging -- no one's always in the mood for an argument.

On the other hand, too much agreeableness leads to another kind of failure mode -- and IMO a more sinister one.

Comment author: Adele_L 31 October 2014 12:31:57AM 2 points [-]

The article talked about endless contrarianism, where people disagree as a default reaction, instead of because of a pre-existing difference in models. I think that is a problem in the LW community.

Meetup : Atlanta Beginning of November Meetup - Rationality

1 Adele_L 30 October 2014 03:53AM

Discussion article for the meetup : Atlanta Beginning of November Meetup - Rationality

WHEN: 01 November 2014 07:00:00PM (-0400)

WHERE: 2388 Lawrenceville Hwy. Unit L

It's easy to care about "The Truth." In fact, very many people do, despite disagreeing drastically on what exactly "The Truth" is. That's why it is important to not only care about truth, but algorithms which can reliably increase the correspondence between the map and the territory.

Recommended reading: <http://lesswrong.com/lw/eta/rationality_appreciating_cognitive_algorithms/>

We will have snacks and games!

Note: please park in spots marked 'Visitor'. There are plenty by the beginning of the complex. Also there will be cats present.

Hope to see you there!

Discussion article for the meetup : Atlanta Beginning of November Meetup - Rationality

Comment author: Sysice 28 October 2014 07:57:32AM 16 points [-]

Did the survey (a couple days ago).

I wasn't here for the last survey- are the results predominantly discussed here and on Yvain's blog?

Comment author: Adele_L 28 October 2014 10:07:27PM 1 point [-]

Yes, Yvain will write a post about the results here once it is finished. I think historically that has been around the start of the new year.

Comment author: Adele_L 28 October 2014 12:54:58AM 13 points [-]

Did it! Even the digit ratio question! (which is why I am taking it relatively late)

Unsurprisingly, my digit ratio is pretty feminine (0.969 averaged over both hands).

Comment author: lmm 24 October 2014 06:30:06PM 2 points [-]

I'm a traditional leftist/tax-and-spend liberal but anti-abortion. It could be my catholic upbringing, but it just seems incredibly obvious to me, a "you must be this rational to ride" line, that killing the same entity inside someone else is just as bad as killing it outside.

(Pro-abortion is coherent if you are pro-infanticide - really pro it, not just the "lol yeah delicious babies" kind we sometimes see on LW. And there's a coherent position of "the line needs to be somewhere and birth is the Schnelling point, so I'm contingently pro-abortion but anti-infanticide, pro tem". But I don't think many pro-abortion folk would endorse that position. )

In response to comment by lmm on Non-standard politics
Comment author: Adele_L 24 October 2014 09:50:52PM 1 point [-]

I think for pro-abortion it is more about letting the woman decide to undergo an intervention over something which will affect her health/well-being significantly. So killing a fetus/baby might still be a certain amount of bad (maybe ramping up continuously with age), but it is more bad to not allow this choice (but this is de-emphasized by the pro-abortion movement for the obvious political reasons). I think this also explains why lots of people are ok with early-term abortions, but not late-term abortions.

In response to Fighting Mosquitos
Comment author: shminux 16 October 2014 05:57:03PM 1 point [-]

This sounds fishy. Clearly Bill Gates is smart enough to have considered this approach. If not, let him know.

In response to comment by shminux on Fighting Mosquitos
Comment author: Adele_L 16 October 2014 06:07:15PM 2 points [-]

Holden Karnofsky in the comments of the linked article:

I’ve discussed these sort of thing before and have an impression that the Gates Foundation is interested in it. Whether we look into this sort of thing would depend on whether we select malaria control/elimination as a priority area for GiveWell Labs, a determination that will probably be made in 2015. My off-the-cuff guess is that this sort of work is being adequately explored with support from BMGF.

Meetup : Atlanta Beginning of October Meetup - Productive Arguments

1 Adele_L 09 October 2014 01:50AM

Discussion article for the meetup : Atlanta Beginning of October Meetup - Productive Arguments

WHEN: 12 October 2014 07:00:00PM (-0400)

WHERE: 2388 Lawrenceville Hwy. Unit L. Decatur, GA 30033

This meetup we'll be talking about having productive arguments. We'll be discussing a variety of ways to get the most out of a debate so come ready for good discussion and interesting conversation.

There will be snacks and games.

Please park in a spot marked visitor because parking elsewhere runs the risk of being towed. There are cats at the location.

Hope to see you there!

Discussion article for the meetup : Atlanta Beginning of October Meetup - Productive Arguments

Comment author: ShIxtan 09 October 2014 12:01:19AM *  4 points [-]

Long time lurker here, I just recently got accepted to App Academy (A big part of my inspiration for applying came from this post) And I'm really excited to attend some meetups in the area.

I have a few questions for Less Wrong people in the area, and this seemed like a good place to post them:

  1. I'll be going in December, any chance I'll have Less Wrong company?

  2. I understand that at least a few folks from here have been to app academy. Any advice? I've got an Associates in CS, and none of the prep work they've given me is too difficult, but is there anything else I should do to prepare?

  3. They allow students to stay there, but I'm hoping to bring my fiancee with me. Unfortunately, rent seems to be ridiculous and I have no idea where to look (I've never moved to a city that wasn't driving distance from me). What's the best way to find apartments in SF?

  4. Related to the above, is anyone in the SF area looking for a roommate(or two) starting December? We are clean, quiet, and can be very unobtrusive if need be. The main issue I see is that we would prefer to also bring our cat along.

Comment author: Adele_L 09 October 2014 01:42:05AM 4 points [-]

1) There are a lot of LWers in the SF area. I think Ozy Frantz might be doing App Academy then.

3) Here is a Google Doc for finding LW roommates in the SF bay area.

I'll be moving there around the same time - look forward to seeing you there!

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