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Comment author: Adele_L 18 December 2014 11:46:50PM 2 points [-]

Yeah, it fills up to fast - it starts feeling uncomfortably full after just one or two days for me.

So having it every other day might be worth a try. I guess the main issue is that if we have them too often, it will clutter up /r/discussion.

Comment author: RobbBB 14 December 2014 01:52:32AM 4 points [-]

Thanks, Sarunas. We've been thinking about this issue; multiple people have brought up the example of MathOverflow in previous discussions. It's a very relevant data point, though the intent of this forum differs from the intent behind MO in a number of ways.

Comment author: Adele_L 16 December 2014 02:40:22AM 2 points [-]

It might also be worth talking to David Zureick-Brown (co-founder of MO) about this (and maybe other things). He's already interested in MIRI's work.

Meetup : Atlanta December Meetup - Game Night!

1 Adele_L 11 December 2014 02:56AM

Discussion article for the meetup : Atlanta December Meetup - Game Night!

WHEN: 27 December 2014 07:00:00AM (-0500)

WHERE: 2388 Lawrenceville Highway Unit L, Norgate Manor, Decatur, GA 30033

Come join us for a get together! We'll be playing games and having a low key social gathering. Feel free to bring your favorite games and any snacks you would like.

Please park in a spot marked visitor. Parking in a numbered spot can get you towed. There are cats at the location.

Hope to see you!

Discussion article for the meetup : Atlanta December Meetup - Game Night!

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 November 2014 04:47:48PM -1 points [-]

Mormon polygamy is not normal. Mormons donating 10% of their income also isn't normal. Mormonism has enough impact on a person that some Mormons can identify other Mormons.

And I think religious weirdness is one of the kinds of weirdness that people see past the most easily.

The thing that distinguishes religious weirdness is that it comes from a highly motivated place and isn't a random whim.

if one aims at public advocacy

I'm not exactly sure what you mean with "public advocacy".

Comment author: Adele_L 30 November 2014 12:03:06AM 6 points [-]

Mormons don't practice polygamy anymore, and they haven't for a long time (except for small 'unofficial' groups). Most Mormons I know feel pretty weird about it themselves.

Comment author: Adele_L 22 November 2014 12:49:43AM 4 points [-]
Comment author: Lumifer 18 November 2014 07:16:56PM 3 points [-]


Because if you're not upsetting some people, you are not impacting the status quo in any meaningful way.

Comment author: Adele_L 18 November 2014 07:36:49PM 1 point [-]

Maybe that is true in many cases, but even so, it still is a bad thing to optimize for. The outside view says that most of the time, having your percentage of positive karma steadily decreasing means the quality of your comments are getting worse. If you want to be controversial and still be taken seriously, you need to signal your competence in less controversial areas.

Comment author: advancedatheist 17 November 2014 06:27:32PM 3 points [-]

In the real world, the probability of a ten year old's death also reflects the fact that in developed countries, children live in sheltered conditions.

Comment author: Adele_L 17 November 2014 10:54:59PM 6 points [-]

According to the CDC, the leading causes for death for children aged 5-9 (in 2012 in the United States) are: 1. Unintentional injury 2. Malignant neoplasm (aka cancer) 3. Congenital disorders 4. Homicide 5. Heart disease

If we solved aging, it seems likely we could eliminate or significantly reduce deaths from cancer, congenital disorders and heart disease.

Once we look at the 10-14 age bracket or above, suicide makes it into the top five causes of death until age ~50 and above.

We can also look at the leading causes of unintentional injury. For the 5-9 age bracket, we have 1. Motor vehicle accidents 2. Drowning 3. Fire/Burns 4. Unintentional suffocation 5. Other land transport injuries

Traffic accidents seem likely to be solvable to a large degree with self-driving car technology. Not as sure about the others. It's worth noting that the primary cause of unintentional injury deaths for adults is unintentional poisoning. This was surprising to me; I would guess it's mostly due to drug use.

Comment author: Adele_L 17 November 2014 07:33:15PM 3 points [-]

Generally, dark arts should be avoided for decision theoretic reasons - essentially you are defecting on the prisoner dilemma.

Meetup : MIRIxAtlanta - MIRI Research Guide + Corrigibility

1 Adele_L 16 November 2014 10:34PM

Discussion article for the meetup : MIRIxAtlanta - MIRI Research Guide + Corrigibility

WHEN: 22 November 2014 06:00:00PM (-0500)

WHERE: 2388 Lawrenceville Hwy. Unit L. Decatur, GA 30033

We'll go over the new research guide http://intelligence.org/research-guide/ which discusses which mathematical knowledge is necessary for doing FAI research, and goes over the major lines of research done at MIRI.

We will also look at a new line of research called corrigibility. From the research guide: "As artificially intelligent systems grow in intelligence and capability, some of their available options may allow them to resist intervention by their programmers. We call an AI system “corrigible” if it cooperates with what its creators regard as a corrective intervention, despite default incentives for rational agents to resist attempts to shut them down or modify their preferences."

There will also be snacks and cats! Hope to see you there!

Discussion article for the meetup : MIRIxAtlanta - MIRI Research Guide + Corrigibility

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 11 November 2014 06:45:20AM 1 point [-]

Quines don't say anything about human working memory limitations or the amount of time a human would require for learning to understand the whole system, and furthermore only talk about printing the source code not understanding it, so I'm not sure how they're relevant for this.

Comment author: Adele_L 11 November 2014 03:17:05PM 2 points [-]

I wouldn't be too surprised if the hypothesis is true for unmodified humans, but for systems in general I expect it to be untrue. Whatever 'understanding' is, the diagonal lemma should be able to find a fixed point for it (or at the very least, an arbitrarily close approximation) - it would be very surprising if it didn't hold. Quines are just an instance of this general principle that you can actually play with and poke around and see how they work - which helps demystify the core idea and gives you a picture of how this could be possible.

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