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18 March 2012 11:22:44PM
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Don't Straw Man Fellow Arguers, Steel Man Them Instead
Can you provide some specific tips on this one? I've tried to do this in discussions with non-LW people, and it comes off looking bizarre at best and rude at worst. (See also: this comment, which is basically what ends up happening.) Have you been able to implement this technique in discussions, and if so, how did you do it while adhering to social norms/not aggravating your discussion partners?
I have sometimes used this one with my ex-boyfriend, who was an extraordinarily bad arguer. I did it for two reasons : have a productive argument and not have a boyfriend complaining that I always won arguments, so not exactly what the post had in mind. He had also admitted that I argued better than he did, so it did not come off too rude (I still had to use many qualifiers). That being said, I never used it efficiently when there were more than two people involved ans it sometimes backfired.
I would not recommend using it in any conversation, and especially not on an online discussion.
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Can you provide some specific tips on this one? I've tried to do this in discussions with non-LW people, and it comes off looking bizarre at best and rude at worst. (See also: this comment, which is basically what ends up happening.) Have you been able to implement this technique in discussions, and if so, how did you do it while adhering to social norms/not aggravating your discussion partners?
I have sometimes used this one with my ex-boyfriend, who was an extraordinarily bad arguer. I did it for two reasons : have a productive argument and not have a boyfriend complaining that I always won arguments, so not exactly what the post had in mind. He had also admitted that I argued better than he did, so it did not come off too rude (I still had to use many qualifiers). That being said, I never used it efficiently when there were more than two people involved ans it sometimes backfired.
I would not recommend using it in any conversation, and especially not on an online discussion.