Comment author: Asymmetric 15 November 2012 08:19:21PM 3 points [-]

There should be a branch of CFAR on the east coast.

Comment author: Asymmetric 15 November 2012 07:40:26PM 11 points [-]

Answered everything, including the extra credit questions, except for the official IQ question and the question concerning income (I'm a student in highschool and I don't have paid work, although I do volunteer).

I also hope that the what the quiz means by "progressive" is also what I mean by "progressive".

Anyhow, excited to see the results!

Comment author: Xachariah 28 March 2012 02:42:29AM *  21 points [-]

He's got a time machine and the stock market exists.

Give him a few days a month outside of Hogwarts (or just a telephone/television) and he could own every gold mine, hell, own everything in the muggle world. I could pull that off with just a time machine.

Comment author: Asymmetric 28 March 2012 04:15:48AM 6 points [-]

Unrelated: They did that in a movie called Primer, which I recommend to people who like MOR and deciphering probably-correct engineering-speak.

Comment author: Locke 28 March 2012 02:28:20AM 24 points [-]

Five days was too long, IMO. If we only had 24 hours I would have enjoyed it much more.

Comment author: Asymmetric 28 March 2012 04:02:36AM *  9 points [-]

Considering that at least part of the correct solution was found within 24 hours, I think you're right, Locke. It might affect accessibility, though -- I know I would be sad if I logged on only to find that the discussion had closed already.

Having read through the speculation, I even found most of the chapter quite anticlimactic. Recognizing the correct predictions removed all the tension, since MOR's tension relies so much on plotting.

That said, though, reading through the discussion gave me a harmless and very insightful lesson into how predictions work. I learned what makes a prediction probable versus plausible, in a way that not only allows me to understand it, but to think about how I would apply it to my life (I hadn't really internalized that the percents of all possible outcomes have to add to a hundred, even though in hindsight that's fairly obvious. I also learned about the betting-real-money threshold).

All in all, despite getting in the way of the chapter, it was a nice, closed-environment rationalist lesson. Thank you for prompting the discussion, Eliezer!

Comment author: Asymmetric 28 March 2012 03:52:36AM 0 points [-]

How likely do you all think it is that Harry will defeat Voldemort (as per the prophesy) by the end of his first year?

Comment author: faul_sname 28 March 2012 01:39:38AM 1 point [-]

I'm 99% sure I won't. And that neither will Eliezer.

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Has it occurred to you that if you're really that confident you could be making money on bets?

Comment author: Asymmetric 28 March 2012 03:21:17AM *  1 point [-]

i'm not sure if this is the prediction you are referring to, but he did make and win a bet on the last page.

Comment author: Asymmetric 23 March 2012 04:55:56AM 3 points [-]

We need a new discussion thread. Anyone want the dubious honor of making it?

Comment author: Lavode 23 March 2012 04:33:11AM *  1 point [-]

Because there is no way Voldemort would be able to cast the true patronus. The nessesary mindset is much to altrusitic. Hmm. Since Hermonie could likely also master the true patronus, wrecking the animal form of the spell for everyone probably shields her from excessive punishment in general as well, at least until such time as a significant number of people other than her and Harry master it. The optimal version of this play is to have Hermonie destroy the dementor present´, but that requires enough time to prep H. Timeturner?

Comment author: Asymmetric 23 March 2012 04:38:23AM *  2 points [-]

We think it's likely that Voldemort can't cast it, but Lucius and the Wizengamot do not, and the only information they have regarding it being a sign of altruism is Harry's word on the subject.

It's even more of a stretch to say that Lucius would be convinced that Harry is not Voldemort, because the Patronus alone isn't enough evidence.

Comment author: Lavode 23 March 2012 04:18:14AM 8 points [-]

Step one: Stand up and loudly explain how a patronus works, and what a dementor actually is, under the guise of arguing for a diffrent punisment - This will make the entire wizengamot, including the aurors controling the dementor present incapable of casting expecto patronum. Destroy the dementor before it eats anyone. Now the wizengamot has to shut down azkaban (Because the secret would get out). This would not exactly endear him to anyone at all, but they cannot seriously retaliate, because they need him to kill off the dementors before they run out of aurors who havent heard the truth yet. This doesnt actually free Hermonie, just stops them from sending her (or anyone) to azkaban.

Side bonus Harry cannot predict: This would probably also convince Lucius that he isnt Pottermort.

Comment author: Asymmetric 23 March 2012 04:21:02AM 1 point [-]

Why would Lucius be convinced by that?

Comment author: Vaniver 23 March 2012 02:56:19AM 6 points [-]

Reality does not have to obey dramatic pacing.

A central part of Eliezer's worldview is that it is possible to lose, and lose big. An Al-Ghazali can come along and destroy the bright future of your society. A UFAI can destroy the bright future of your society. A Quirrel can destroy the bright future of Harry Potter.

If the fic is coming to an end soon, which I think has been implied, Harry's implosion and Quirrel's victory are a good place to end things.

(I should clarify that, by "most likely outcome," I mean "more likely than any other specific outcome," not "more likely than its complement." I think there's more than half chance that Harry will think of something, and I think ArisKatsaris has proposed the most likely way Harry will get out of this, but still think it's somewhat more likely Harry will fail than win that way.

Comment author: Asymmetric 23 March 2012 04:06:29AM 1 point [-]

And yet, he did an entire arc about the role of a hero and supporting characters. I don't think we can be sure that his decisions won't be influenced by story concerns.

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