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What were these changes? What was the experience of them wearing off like?
I stopped procrastinating as much and kept more organized. I also spent more overall time on productive activities.
The wearing off was just a slow gradient of falling back into my usual level of productivity. I didn't notice it immediately as it was happening, only upon reflection.
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Felicifia: a Utilitarianism Forum
I mentioned Felicifa in a previous post. Unfortunately the Felicifa post I was replying to has disappeared, and can't be found by Google either. I suggest that whoever is in charge ought to make a greater effort to preserve past discussions.
Fortunately it just barely managed to get archived:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070901222628/http://felicifia.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=89
An order of magnitude estimate would be nice. For example, I was thinking the first cutoff was more like a week. I was way off.
I suggest you start working now. This will mean that your current self will work, but it also will mean that your future self will probably work. The benefit to your far future self may pay off the cost to your present self. It's only a few minutes after all.
That's a good idea. It seems to work but the thought takes a little while to convincingly construct.
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How to manipulate future self into being productive?
You could read about hyperbolic time discounting realize it makes no sense, and learn to avoid it. If you're lucky, this process will take long enough that it will be future you doing the work.
What time scale are you looking for? When does it switch from current from future, and from future to far future?
It switches from current to future in 10-30 minutes. Future to far-future is not a hard limit. I just meant that I want my future self's work to eventually pay off.
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How to manipulate future self into being productive?
You're framing the problem wrong -within these conditions, there are no good solution. There are 3 shortcuts out:
First, realize, that you're inherently time-locked: the current self is the only one on which you have some amount of control (you might put yourself in a situation, where your only way out is to "work hard" -eg. make a bet with a friend to pass that exam, etc- but I found these to be less effective, than the other two).
Second, reframe the problem. Some sample questions you might ask: * In what ways might I get the most gratification out of this work? * In what ways might I get the most XP out of this experience? * In what ways might I learn the most of myself during this excercise? * In what ways might I use this as a way to self-improve? You get the idea -reframing is key.
Third, "working" for most classes of work, is fundamentally muscles: as you do more, and more, try different ways out, your leverage, and ability to "get stuff done" will improve. So: start with baby steps, then use the positive feedback, and gained experience to improve, and apply it to other aspects of the task.
Hope this helps.
First, realize, that you're inherently time-locked: the current self is the only one on which you have some amount of control
Actually, I have managed to cause short-term changes in productivity to my future self but they tend to slowly wear off. This makes me optimistic that there are self-sustaining solutions.
How to manipulate future self into being productive?
I don't like doing much work. I would however, like my future self to do work so that my far future self will have better opportunities.
To clarify, I want these things for each specified self:
- Current self: immediate gratification
- Future self: work hard
- Far future self: benefit from future self's work
The problem is, I expect that my future self will feel the same way and also want immediate gratification. What can I do now to achieve all 3 of those goals? How can I manipulate my future self into doing more work without having to do much work right now?
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Change your code to <a href="http://felicifia.org">felicifia.org</a>.
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The antiquated publishing system is holding back self-improvement in academia. The journals are the incentivizers for quality research, but they're not interested in quality: They're interested in their impact factor. You'd think by now we'd be using science to create a collaborative system that self-improves and works towards incentivizing academia to find valuable truths.
We're stuck with a Ferrari with wagon wheels.
I'm suspicious that the solution is so simple. If academic recursive self-improvement were as straightforward as you imply, wouldn't somebody somewhere be making a killing off of it?
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I guess I worded the question poorly. I mean, what did you change that made you more productive? I'm trying to see if there's any obvious and fixable reason that it didn't last. This can require precision in describing your mental state to get right.
I will attempt to do so but I have no way of knowing whether this is accurate or it is just the best rationalization my brain came up with. In addition, I know very little of psychology and my attempt at introspection is probably inadequate to give much useful information.
If I introspect while making a decision I can notice a succession of feelings in response to each other. I tried reflecting upon the experience of making a poor decision and explicitly noticing the affective factors that influenced my decision. I constructed a new feeling which I thought would promote productivity. I attempted to suppress thoughts supporting the poor decision while promoting my constructed feeling whenever I was making a decision related to productivity.