Comment author: RobertLumley 03 December 2012 01:48:34AM 13 points [-]

Yvain had what I thought was a very thorough discussion in the original thread. If you're unhappy with that, I don't think there's really anything to say but I'm sorry. Because we're not going to get any better data - realistically, any survey you conduct isn't going to get the response rate that the general census did, especially when your tests are going to take a long time. Furthermore, I have no faith that your tests are any better than the one that was given in the census. Lastly, the correlations with SAT and ACT have settled the question to what I feel is a reasonable degree of accuracy, and sitting around talking about how smart we are doesn't send signals to onlookers that I think are in the best interests of LessWrong.

Comment author: Blackened 03 December 2012 10:24:50AM *  -2 points [-]

You are either not understanding, or not wanting to understand, the difference between the score on a reliable IQ test and the SAT scores of just the LWers who took a SAT. Obviously, an IQ test is a much better indicator, also SAT is only available for people in the US. Also, the responses I'm getting are already very different from the survey.

JCTI's reliability is verifiable from the link, even though the other test's is not.

sitting around talking about how smart we are doesn't send signals to onlookers that I think are in the best interests of LessWrong.

Investigating a phenomena is what we are about. I don't see a logically valid reason to not investigate this one, especially if previous data suggests an abnormally high level. This holds true even if the concept of IQ is invalid, as long as it is measurable.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 December 2012 04:07:13AM *  18 points [-]

Mean 89222.75
Median 137.0

Somebody's being a douchebag.

If you don't like a topic, proper responses can include: 1) Don't participate, 2) Downvote, 3) Make a comment saying why you dislike discussion of the topic.

The proper response is NOT to sabotage the topic.

The reason this site maintains relatively high levels of rational discourse, rather than trolling and flame wars, etc, is because we all do our best to follow the social contract of this site. Breaking the contract (via actions such as sabotaging polls, karmassassination, etc) pushes the LW dynamic away from all the things we like (open, reasoned discussion, thoughtful ideas, etc) and towards the things we don't like (i.e. 4chan)

tl;dr- Don't be a douchebag.

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Comment author: Blackened 03 December 2012 10:12:03AM 2 points [-]

We can still view the individual responses and ignore this one.

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Comment author: bbleeker 03 December 2012 06:08:41AM 2 points [-]

I think you mean NOT culture-based, right?

Comment author: Blackened 03 December 2012 10:06:04AM 2 points [-]

Yes. And I thought I reread the thing xD

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 02 December 2012 11:24:17PM 4 points [-]

Minor point-- if you want links to look nice in articles, you need to use html rather than the markdown which is what works in comments. I don't know whether putting up with this is a sign that we're unusually intelligent.

Comment author: Blackened 02 December 2012 11:46:35PM 0 points [-]

Ahh. For some reason, I was convinced that the link worked before I edited my post, during the process of which I didn't touch the link. So I just left it there, out of frustration, it was clickable anyway. Fixed.

Maybe HTML does suggest something about LW's IQ, but it is not really useful, given the current evidence we have so far. The way I interpret it, it says that the average IQ is probably over 110-120 (no upper limit), with a quite weak reliability. Even if we don't take into account that 20-70% of the users know programming (many people don't study computer science, but still use programming).

Comment author: Tenoke 02 December 2012 11:00:03PM 2 points [-]

'but don't remember to convert it to SD15' did you mean don't forget?

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Comment author: Blackened 02 December 2012 11:04:03PM 2 points [-]

Yes. Edited.

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Comment author: RobertLumley 02 December 2012 10:00:47PM 12 points [-]

I think this topic has pretty effectively been beaten to death already. What is the endgame of this discussion?

Comment author: Blackened 02 December 2012 10:32:32PM 3 points [-]

I couldn't find any relevant discussion on the topic. Can anyone give me a link?

I'm looking for one where people have posted their scores on a reliable IQ test, rather than answering to the question "what is your IQ?".

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Comment author: Blackened 02 December 2012 10:25:53PM *  2 points [-]

JCTI score

Please don't use this field for scores from other tests, except for clinical ones - note that there are some that are not free and are still not valid (one costed a few hundred Euros!). You can post scores from other tests if you are really sure they are valid, but don't forget to convert it to SD15. As far as I know, some Mensa admission tests are not accurate.

Submitting...

Comment author: Blackened 02 December 2012 10:30:02PM 0 points [-]

CFNSE score

Here is the percentile convertor for CFNSE. http://www.etienne.se/cfnse/norm.htm

Note that the best strategy is to look at Adults percentile, even if this is less accurate than the age group. We are looking at the intelligence compared to all humans, not compared to all humans at the same age range.

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Comment author: jsteinhardt 02 December 2012 10:23:12PM *  4 points [-]

You need to include the polls as a comment, rather than the main post.

EDIT: Would actually recommend having them as two separate comments.

Comment author: Blackened 02 December 2012 10:28:24PM 2 points [-]

Thanks.

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Comment author: Blackened 02 December 2012 10:25:53PM *  2 points [-]

JCTI score

Please don't use this field for scores from other tests, except for clinical ones - note that there are some that are not free and are still not valid (one costed a few hundred Euros!). You can post scores from other tests if you are really sure they are valid, but don't forget to convert it to SD15. As far as I know, some Mensa admission tests are not accurate.

Submitting...

Comment author: Blackened 02 December 2012 09:55:34PM 0 points [-]

I really wanted to come, but coursework deadlines are very close, so I had to skip this one. How did it go? How many people came?

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