Comment author: Kutta 01 April 2012 01:00:30PM *  11 points [-]

He who knows how to do something is the servant of he who knows why that thing must be done.

-- Isuna Hasekura, Spice and Wolf vol. 5 ("servant" is justified by the medieval setting).

Comment author: Blueberry 02 April 2012 07:48:02AM 2 points [-]

Would "servant" not otherwise be justified?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 01 April 2012 08:08:57PM 12 points [-]

The point of rationality isn't to better argue against beliefs you consider wrong but to change your existing beliefs to be more correct.

Comment author: Blueberry 02 April 2012 07:46:11AM 2 points [-]

That's a good reminder but I'm not sure how it applies here.

Comment author: Ezekiel 01 April 2012 11:27:00PM 8 points [-]

Zach Wiener's elegant disproof:

Think of the strangest thing that's true. Okay. Now add a monkey dressed as Hitler.

(Although to be fair, it's possible that the disproof fails because "think of the strangest thing that's true" is impossible for a human brain.)

Comment author: Blueberry 02 April 2012 07:44:37AM 13 points [-]

It also fails in the case where the strangest thing that's true is an infinite number of monkeys dressed as Hitler. Then adding one doesn't change it.

More to the point, the comparison is more about typical fiction, rather than ad hoc fictional scenarios. There are very few fictional works with monkeys dressed as Hitler.

Comment author: duckduckMOO 01 April 2012 08:46:07PM *  0 points [-]

no, it's the specific description of the feeling that surprised me: "sweet." edit: and thanks for helping me out.

Comment author: Blueberry 02 April 2012 07:37:44AM 0 points [-]

Yes, "sweet" is a great description. Why, how would you describe it?

Comment author: bogdanb 01 April 2012 02:11:27PM *  5 points [-]

Actually, it seems that they do have same-sex marriage. Chapter 42:

"Wow," Daphne said, sounding a little shocked. "You mean Muggles really do hate that? I thought that was just something the Death Eaters made up."

"No," said an older Slytherin girl Hermione didn't recognize, "it's true, they have to get married in secret, and if they're ever discovered, they get burned at the stake together. [...]”

By exception probat regulam it seems that there are same-sex marriages between MoR wizards.

Comment author: Blueberry 01 April 2012 08:08:03PM 0 points [-]

Awesome! Good to know.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 01 April 2012 07:47:25PM 6 points [-]

LW's standards for rationality quotes vary, but in any case this does allow for the reading of endorsing allowing perceived evidence to override pre-existing beliefs, if one ignores the standard connotations of "skeptic" and "missionary".

Comment author: Blueberry 01 April 2012 08:07:04PM 3 points [-]

Also judging from his other quotes I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant...

Comment author: TheOtherDave 01 April 2012 07:47:25PM 6 points [-]

LW's standards for rationality quotes vary, but in any case this does allow for the reading of endorsing allowing perceived evidence to override pre-existing beliefs, if one ignores the standard connotations of "skeptic" and "missionary".

Comment author: Blueberry 01 April 2012 08:01:04PM 4 points [-]

I guess, but that seems like a strange interpretation seeing as the speaker says he's no longer "a skeptic" in general.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 31 March 2012 12:29:49PM 0 points [-]

It was a Callahan's novel which came out in the past ten years or so. It might have been Callahan's Key.

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I'm really sorry, but I don't remember the details.

Comment author: Blueberry 01 April 2012 07:53:12PM 0 points [-]

Thanks... I'm still going through the most recent Callahan novels. Jake Stonebender does kinda have a temper.

Comment author: duckduckMOO 01 April 2012 04:19:20PM *  -2 points [-]

"But human beings do find power over others sweet." Need some data points because wow do I need to update if this is accurate for most people. Did "sweet" throw anyone else off?

Please take the time (I GOTTA KNOW) to upvote this post if that doesn't reflect your experience, downvote if it does, and do this opposite to the post I'm gonna post right after this that says "counterbalance." Thanks.

edit: poll

Comment author: Blueberry 01 April 2012 07:51:55PM 1 point [-]

Downvoted and upvoted the counterbalance (which for some reason was at -1 already; someone didn't follow your instructions). You're surprised people like power?

Comment author: Dmytry 01 April 2012 06:15:17PM *  2 points [-]

It's not due to our great intelligence, that we are stuck on this mud ball having to wipe out the things we like for the things we like more.

Comment author: Blueberry 01 April 2012 07:46:52PM 0 points [-]

I suspect you overestimate how much most people like cows...

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