Comment author: BrotherNihil 13 October 2013 09:52:24PM 0 points [-]

I agree that trans-disciplinary, integrative, complex systems thinking needs to become an important and respectable field in its own right. Nexialism anyone?

Comment author: BrotherNihil 09 October 2013 10:57:52PM *  1 point [-]

I became a trouble-maker. By the fifth grade I was doing advanced math self-study in a corner and hanging out with the class hoodlum, smoking pot at recess. The teachers feared me because I saw through their constructs. I was easily the best speller in school, but I used to intentionally spell words wrong in spelling bees just to spite them. I guess I've always been a villain.

Comment author: BrotherNihil 21 September 2013 05:14:11AM *  2 points [-]

If there are three parties, why not employ Ernst Stavro Blofeld's strategy, which he illustrated with the parable of the Siamese fighting fish and applied at SPECTRE vis-à-vis the US and the USSR, whereby you incite the other two parties to fight each other, and when the fight is over you swoop in and attack the weakened victor?

Comment author: BrotherNihil 15 September 2013 12:57:16AM *  3 points [-]

My observation about cults, from personal experience leading them, is that they are a totally normal mode of human operation. People are always looking for strong leaders with vision, passion and charisma who can organize them for a larger purpose. What distinguishes a cult from a non-cult is that they are outside the norms of the mainstream society (as established by the dominant cults -- i.e. "the culture"). "Cult", "brainwashing", "deprogramming", etc. are terms of propaganda used by the dominant culture to combat competing memeplexes.

I think of cults as testbeds for new civilizations and new ways of life. In times of change, when the old ways are failing and the civilization is falling, cults may be well-positioned to expand and become the new normal. I suppose this is the memetic equivalent of marginal species who exploit mass extinctions to become genetically dominant -- cults provide memetic diversity. This is apparently what was going on in the declining years of Rome, and I see indications that something similar is happening today.

Comment author: shminux 02 September 2013 07:01:22AM *  6 points [-]

I am not a nuclear physicist and I haven't read the paper, but given that there were no observations of sun-like stars going Nova and that anything humans can do can also probably occur naturally just by chance, the odds of this being workable given the current technology are too low to worry about. Though maybe a bit higher than of the LHC creating an earth-swallowing black hole. But still at the Pascal's mugger level.

Comment author: BrotherNihil 02 September 2013 07:29:15PM *  0 points [-]

An obvious rejoinder to this is that while a Boeing 747 could assemble itself naturally by chance, the fact that we don't see any 747's occurring naturally isn't evidence for their impossibility. Therefore doesn't your point about no sun-like stars going nova only carry weight if we assume that there is other intelligent life in the observable universe?

As a side note, I read somewhere that John von Neumann once had an epiphany in which he imagined that supernovas were the final acts of civilizations that had learned to harness the power of nuclear fusion. We could even imagine von Neumann probes being constructed with this purpose, destroying every star in their forward causal cone. You have to admit, it would be a funny old universe if it turned out that such a thing were possible!

Comment author: Crux 29 August 2013 06:39:45AM 1 point [-]

A good quote on this:

It is true that the changes brought about by human action are but trifling when compared with the effects of the operation of the great cosmic forces. From the point of view of eternity and the infinite universe man is an infinitesimal speck. But for man human action and its vicissitudes are the real thing. Action is the essence of his nature and existence, his means of preserving his life and raising himself above the level of animals and plants. However perishable and evanescent all human efforts may be, for man and for human science they are of primary importance.

In other words, even though it's true that every war, every destroyed relationship, every wonderful interaction, and everything else that's ever occurred in history happened on the pale blue dot, most likely quite ephemeral in its existence by contrast to the rest of the universe, this doesn't change about the fact that we as humans are programmed to care about certain things--things that do exist at this time, however transient they would be from a universe perspective--and this is the source of all enjoyment and suffering. The goal is to be on the 'enjoyment' side of it, of course.

Nihilism is just a confusion, a failure to take seriously the maxim 'it all comes back to normalcy'.

Comment author: BrotherNihil 29 August 2013 08:18:10PM *  -2 points [-]

Your argument is that we shouldn't be nihilists because we're "programmed" not to be? Programmed by what? Doesn't the fact that we're having this conversation suggest that we also have meta-programming? What if I reject your programming and want off this wheel of enjoyment and suffering? What is "normalcy"? I find your comment to be full of baffling assertions!

Comment author: Locaha 29 August 2013 08:44:09AM 0 points [-]

What is the refutation of nihilism, in a universe made of atoms and the void?

Who told you the universe is made of atoms and the void?

Comment author: BrotherNihil 29 August 2013 08:08:30PM 0 points [-]

The usual suspects. What are you getting at?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 28 August 2013 10:09:57PM 11 points [-]

In a universe made of atoms and the void, how could it be the one true objective morality to be gloomy and dress in black?

Comment author: BrotherNihil 28 August 2013 11:06:46PM 3 points [-]

Where do you get this strange idea that a nihilist must be gloomy or dress in black?

Comment author: shminux 28 August 2013 07:29:06PM *  3 points [-]

This uncaring universe had a misfortune to evolve macroscopic structures who do care about it and each other, as a byproduct of their drive to procreate.

Comment author: BrotherNihil 28 August 2013 09:29:57PM 0 points [-]

Why is that a misfortune?

Comment author: blacktrance 28 August 2013 07:50:47PM *  6 points [-]

If you taboo the word "nihilism", the question almost answers itself.

Comment author: BrotherNihil 28 August 2013 08:55:56PM 1 point [-]

Can you elaborate? I don't understand this.

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