Comment author: ArisKatsaris 01 June 2016 10:30:42AM 0 points [-]

Nonfiction Books Thread

Comment author: CellBioGuy 02 June 2016 05:54:43PM *  2 points [-]

Oxygen: A Four Billion Year History.

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10089.html http://www.amazon.com/Oxygen-Billion-History-Science-Essentials/dp/0691168369/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Very detailed walk through the apparent history of photosynthesis (non-oxygen-producing and oxygen-producing) over the history of Earth with a strong emphasis on the very large unknowns about its timing, the geochemical and biological consequences thereof, and the significance of oxygen-producing photosynthesis in particular (not just allowing multicellular creatures with lots of energy but also long before there was even any oxygen in the air allowing for much higher levels of biomass due to removing chemical limiting factors on biomass production by nonoxygenic photosynthesis).

The Copernicus Complex: Our Cosmic Significance in a Universe of Planets and Probabilities

http://www.amazon.com/Copernicus-Complex-Caleb-Scharf/dp/0374129215/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1464890000&sr=1-1&keywords=the+copernicus+complex

Still reading it. For once a reasoned analysis of living and intelligent systems in the universe, given what we know and most importantly what we don't know.

Comment author: gwern 01 June 2016 05:17:12PM 4 points [-]

Everything is heritable:

Politics/religion:

AI:

Statistics/meta-science:

Psychology/biology:

Technology:

Economics:

Fiction:

Comment author: CellBioGuy 02 June 2016 05:46:41PM 2 points [-]

"Could a neuroscientist understand a microprocessor?", Jonas & Kording 2016 (Very amusing followup to "Can a biologist fix a radio?")

This is perfect. Absolutely utterly perfect. It's geared towards neuroscientists looking at neural stuff but I was struck by the similarity to the yeast gene deletion collection and all our microarray datasets...

Comment author: JoshuaZ 02 May 2016 03:29:16PM 1 point [-]

Mainstream discussion of existential risk is becoming more of a thing, A recent example is this article in The Atlantic. They do mention a variety of risks but focus on nuclear war and worst case global warming.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 02 May 2016 10:56:50PM *  2 points [-]
Comment author: CellBioGuy 26 April 2016 12:53:43AM 5 points [-]

A week or two ago I linked to a new orbital dynamics paper indicating that there is strong evidence that the inner moons and rings of Saturn are only ~100 megayears old rather than being primordial to the solar system.

Here is a talk at the SETI institute by the scientist who did the research. Fascinating stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZZK8smWFo

Comment author: Lumifer 22 April 2016 10:44:28PM 4 points [-]

the disaster did happen despite warnings (I'd argue climate change fits into this category, for example).

<looks around>

Disaster did happen?

Comment author: CellBioGuy 25 April 2016 04:02:51AM *  0 points [-]

It's ongoing with no sign of stopping. See coral reefs, the slowing of the North Atlantic circulation, the fact that the whole southern half of the American Great Plains will dry up and blow away starting in a few decades when the fossil aquifers (the pumping of which is the only thing keeping them from turning to desert at modern temperatures) dry up, etc.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 15 April 2016 07:19:30PM *  0 points [-]

I totally concur. 10mg/kg/day is a gram a day. If I took that amount of thyroid hormone, which I believe to be one of the safest drugs ever used, and of huge benefit to a large subset of the population, I would confidently expect to give myself an immediate heart attack. At the very least it would make me spectacularly ill.

No toxicologically meaningful differences were observed between the control and AP-treated groups with respect to survival, clinical observations, body weights, food consumption, water consumption, ophthalmology, hematology, clinical chemistry, estrous cycling, sperm parameters, or bone marrow micronucleus formation.

So it's not buggered them up too badly.

For comparison, if you took the poor wee things' thyroids out, then you'd expect them to display horrible symptoms and die off in droves.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 15 April 2016 08:01:39PM *  1 point [-]

Oh the effect is definitely small. They do however note observable differences in the hormones down to a thousandth the dose that caused histological changes, albeit without being able to see secondary effects on quantifiable health outcomes. No idea at all if that's significant but figured I'd contribute it to the discussion of subtle thyroid dysfunction.

Comment author: Lumifer 15 April 2016 04:55:21PM *  1 point [-]

A study that saw statistically significant hormone effects

First, 10 mg/kg/day is a LOT (that's mg, not mcg).

Second, while there were morphological changes ("significantly increased thyroid weights and thyroid histopathology") and some changes in the TSH/T3/T4, the study notes that "No toxicologically meaningful differences were observed between the control and AP-treated groups" which means there were no clinical symptoms whatsoever.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 15 April 2016 07:54:23PM *  1 point [-]

10 mg was what showed thyroid enlargement, but they saw hormone changes without definitive toxicological effects at all doses down to the minimum they tried, ten micrograms per kg per day. Quote:

"Statistically significant changes in TSH and thyroid hormones were observed at all AP dosage levels tested; however, no thyroid organ weight or histopathological effects were observed at AP dosage levels < or = 1.0 mg/kg/day. In the absence of thyroid organ weight and histopathological effects, the toxicological significance of TSH and thyroid hormone changes at AP dosage levels < or = 1.0 mg/kg/day remains to be determined."

I have little strong opinion here, just noting that they saw subtle hormone changes at very low doses and it's hard to ask a mouse how they feel.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 15 April 2016 03:49:54PM *  2 points [-]

I'm afraid I don't have the faintest idea. It certainly fits in the general 'pathogen, immune defense, recent environmental' bag, and if it interferes with iodine chemistry then it sounds more likely than 'randomly chosen thing in that bag'.

If it's true, it should be a simple experiment to inflict the stuff on rats and cause thyroid problems. If it doesn't sod up the rats (even in small amounts) then there doesn't seem to be a strong reason to believe that it would do anything nasty to us. It all works pretty much the same way. Do you know of any relevant experiments?

The central problem seems to be to get medicine to pay attention to the existence of thyroid problems with 'normal' TSH. At the moment they seem to be being run ragged by witch-doctors, but I'm not sure I trust the witch-doctors to do the job properly either. They seem to have convinced themselves that it's mercury fillings or PCBs or fluoride in the water, or anything else they can think of.

If medicine can be persuaded to find out whether there's a real problem, rather than just a weird information cascade from Broda Barnes that's somehow hoodwinking thousands of people into believing they've got better by trying things that should harm them, then I kind of semi-trust it to investigate the possible causes. But perhaps I am being naive.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 15 April 2016 04:12:43PM *  1 point [-]

Here's a more or less randomly chosen talk on the subject of environmental perchlorate and iodide, for what it's worth (from Seti Talks, of all places):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r-p55WLXAEI

A study that saw statistically significant hormone effects at 10 micrograms per kilogram per day: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966512

Comment author: CellBioGuy 15 April 2016 03:13:21PM *  1 point [-]

What do you think about the notion that rising perchlorate levels in food in North America in recent decades could be contributing to thyroid problems in the population? It inhibits iodide pumps throughout the body, not just the thyroid, and has a particular effect on babies getting iodine through these iodide pumps in breast tissue making milk.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 10 April 2016 07:21:29PM 6 points [-]

Got my first citations for my first first-author molecular biology publication, and arranged random in person scientific meeting with scientists in another country on a week's notice upon realizing I would be traveling for personal reasons to the same city as some of the people who cited me.

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