Comment author: djcb 21 August 2010 06:34:57PM *  4 points [-]

Did you try GNU Go? That should be hard enough for most beginners.

Side-note, Wikipedia has a nice article on computer-Go; it's gotten a lot better, but still... with all the discussions on AGI on LW, it's sobering to see how difficult even a constrained well-understood domain like Go can be dealt with using today's methods.

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 25 August 2010 12:04:48AM 2 points [-]

Did you try GNU Go? That should be hard enough for most beginners.

The problem with GNUgo is that it teaches a style that would not be effective in beating humans. Generally, you have to build up moderately difficult situations, where you have a deep sequence of forcing moves. These kind of deep but simple to prune trees are very easily read by humans, but GNUgo sucks at them, especially if they are on the interaction boundary of bigger fights.

Still it can be valuable learning tool, but one will learn a different skill set to playing with humans.

In response to Book Recommendations
Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 11 August 2010 11:33:14PM 1 point [-]

Let me advertise my absolute favorite: an obscure Hungarian writer called Geza Csath. He was a doctor and journalist at beginning of the 20th century and he wrote the most beautiful and objective stories on self-deception and other human weaknesses. Highly accurately, without moralizing or romanticizing.

I've only read the originals, but I hope the translation is not too bad. (Unfortunately, in English, it is available only used: http://www.amazon.com/Magicians-Garden-Other-Stories/dp/0231047320/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1281569193&sr=1-4

A good book I am reading currently is The Art Of Choosing by Sheena Iyengar.

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 11 August 2010 10:58:44PM *  11 points [-]

I think it is mostly hopeless trying to teach rationality to most people.

For example, both of my parents studied Math in university and still have a very firm grip of the fundamentals.

I just got a phone call yesterday from my father in Germany saying: "We saw in the news, that a German tourist couple got killed in a shooting in San Francisco. Will you avoid going out after dark?" When I tried to explain that I won't update my risk estimates based on any such singular event, he seemed to listen to and understand formally what I said. Anyhow, he was completely unimpressed, finishing the conversation in an even more worried tone: "I see, but you will take care, won't you?"

Comment author: DanielVarga 25 July 2010 06:51:33AM 2 points [-]

The silly thing is that they present it as a timeline, but it is in fact an incoherent list of technological breakthroughs without really considering the interaction between them. It's like they had a nano writer, a climate writer and so on, all of them wrote a timeline, and the editors merged them in the end.

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 26 July 2010 11:39:26PM *  2 points [-]

He he, poor WW2 veterans miss the deadline by just one year:

2044 - The last veterans of WW2 are passing away

2045 - Humans are becoming intimately merged with machines

Comment author: ciphergoth 15 July 2010 07:52:23AM *  3 points [-]

An object lesson in how not to think about the future:

http://www.futuretimeline.net/

(from Pharyngula)

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 26 July 2010 11:33:31PM *  1 point [-]

2031 – Web 4.0 is transforming the Internet landscape

Could be funny, if it was a joke... :(

Comment author: ratdreams 16 July 2010 09:13:58PM 0 points [-]

Hm, isn't he saying that unattractive people claim they value attributes other than physical attractiveness when selecting a mate? If that's what you're referring to, hilarious. If not, speak more slowly next time. : )

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 16 July 2010 11:14:58PM *  0 points [-]

That's true.

But the parallel was a bit more specific: "Good sense of humor" (which he concretely brought up as the most typical example) is an attribute one can easily claim to have as it is impossible to measure.

Comment author: ratdreams 15 July 2010 08:38:12PM 0 points [-]

: )

More like: I'm not stunning, just ordinary good looking, and I also have a great sense of humor.

I didn't say I was stupid, just not a genius.

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 16 July 2010 05:51:44PM *  -1 points [-]

You missed my point. (Which you would not have, if you had read The Upside of Irrationality by Dan Ariely, an excellent book.)

Comment author: ratdreams 14 July 2010 07:04:51PM 0 points [-]

I consider myself in the middle of the bell curve when it comes to intelligence. I'm average. I am, however, more rational than some very smart people I know..

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 14 July 2010 07:34:08PM 2 points [-]

This sounds like "I am not very good looking, but have a great sense of humor." ;)

Comment author: [deleted] 13 July 2010 12:50:42AM 1 point [-]

Don't read too much into my fusion analogy; you're right that cryonics is different than fusion.

In response to comment by [deleted] on Open Thread: July 2010, Part 2
Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 13 July 2010 01:01:51AM 1 point [-]

... and different to almost any other unproven technology (for the exact same reason).

Comment author: [deleted] 13 July 2010 12:22:13AM 6 points [-]

um... why isn't it? There's a logically possible chance of revival someday, yeah. But with no way to estimate how likely it is, you're blowing money on mere possibility.

We don't normally make bets that depend on the future development of currently unknown technologies. We aren't all investing in cold fusion just because it would be really awesome if it panned out.

Sorry, I know this is a cryonics-friendly site, but somebody's got to say it.

In response to comment by [deleted] on Open Thread: July 2010, Part 2
Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 13 July 2010 12:40:58AM *  4 points [-]

There are a lot of alternatives to fusion energy and since energy production is a widely recognized societal issue, making individual bets on that is not an immediate matter of life and death on a personal level.

I agree with you, though, that a sufficiently high probability estimate on the workability of cryonics is necessary to rationally spend money on it.

However, if you give 1% chance for both fusion and cryonics to work, it could still make sense to bet on the latter but not on the first.

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