Comment author: jkaufman 12 August 2013 11:57:26AM 1 point [-]

"Someone will break into something I own someday" is much more likely than "someone will break into my office tonight". The former is likely enough that I do take general preparations (a habit of locking doors) but while there are specific preparations I would make to handle the intersection of that I planned to do at the office tomorrow and dealing with the aftermath of a burglary, that's unlikely enough to to be worth it.

Comment author: DSherron 12 August 2013 08:32:48PM 0 points [-]

Does locking doors generally lead to preventing break-ins? I mean, certianly in some cases (cars most notably) it does, but in general, if someone has gone up to your back door with the intent to break in, how likely are they to give up and leave upon finding it locked?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 12 August 2013 05:01:49PM *  1 point [-]

Well, we could use the word "evidence" in different ways (you requiring some magnitude-of-prior-shift).

There's a handy table, two of them in fact, of terminology for strength of evidence here. Up to 5 decibans is "barely worth mentioning". How many microbans does "Zeus ate my homework" amount to?

Think of what you're advocating here: whatever would we do if we disallowed strictly-speaking-correct-nitpicks on LW?

You may be joking, but I do think LW (and everywhere else) would be improved if people didn't do that. I find nitpicking as unappealing as nose-picking.

Comment author: DSherron 12 August 2013 08:26:57PM 3 points [-]

Nitpicking is absolutely critical in any public forum. Maybe in private, with only people who you know well and have very strong reason to believe are very much more likely to misspeak than to misunderstand, nitpicking can be overlooked. Certainly, I don't nitpick every misspoken statement in private. But when those conditions do not hold, when someone is speaking on a subject I am not certain they know well, or when I do not trust that everyone in the audience is going to correctly parse the statement as misspoken and then correctly reinterpret the correct version, nitpicking is the only way to ensure that everyone involved hears the correct message.

Charitably I'll guess that you dislike nitpicking because you already knew all those minor points, they were obvious to anyone reading after all, and they don't have any major impact on the post as a whole. The problem with that is that not everyone who reads Less Wrong has a fully correct understanding of everything that goes into every post. They don't spot the small mistakes, whether those be inconsequential math errors or a misapplication of some minor rule or whatever. And the problem is that just because the error was small in this particular context, it may be a large error in another context. If you mess up your math when doing Bayes' Theorem, you may thoroughly confuse someone who is weak at math and trying to follow how it is applied in real life. In the particular context of this post, getting the direction of a piece of evidence wrong is inconsequential if the magnitude of that evidence is tiny. But if you are making a systematic error which causes you to get the direction of certain types of evidence, which are usually small in magnitude, wrong, then you will eventually make a large error. And unless you are allowed to call out errors dealing with small magnitude pieces of evidence, you won't ever discover it.

I'd also like to say that just because a piece of evidence is "barely worth mentioning" when listing out evidence for and against a claim, does not mean that that evidence should be immediately thrown aside when found. The rules which govern evidence strong enough to convince me that 2+2=3 are the same rules that govern the evidence gained from the fact that when I drop an apple, it falls. You can't just pretend the rules stop applying and expect to come out ok in every situation. In part you can gain practice from applying the rules to those situations, and in part it's important to remember that they do still apply, even if in the end you decide that their outcome is inconsequential.

Comment author: jbay 02 August 2013 02:10:09PM 10 points [-]

But, unlike other species, we also know how not to know. We employ this unique ability to suppress our knowledge not just of mortality, but of everything we find uncomfortable, until our survival strategy becomes a threat to our survival.

[...] There is no virtue in sustaining a set of beliefs, regardless of the evidence. There is no virtue in either following other people unquestioningly or in cultivating a loyal and unquestioning band of followers.

While you can be definitively wrong, you cannot be definitely right. The best anyone can do is constantly to review the evidence and to keep improving and updating their knowledge. Journalism which attempts this is worth reading. Journalism which does not is a waste of time."

Comment author: DSherron 04 August 2013 10:49:14PM 7 points [-]

While you can be definitively wrong, you cannot be definitely right.

Not true. Trivially, if A is definitively wrong, then ~A is definitively right. Popperian falsification is trumped by Bayes' Theorem.

Note: This means that you cannot be definitively wrong, not that you can be definitively right.

Comment author: chaosmage 02 August 2013 12:21:13AM 0 points [-]

I'm not trying to resolve the Fermi problem. I'm pointing out alien UFAIs should be more visible than alien FAIs, and therefore their apparent absence is more remarkable.

Comment author: DSherron 02 August 2013 11:11:44PM -1 points [-]

They should be very, very slightly less visible (they will have slightly fewer resources to use due to expending some on keeping their parent species happy, and FAI is more likely to have a utility function that intentionally keeps itself invisible to intelligent life than UFAI, even though that probability is still very small), but this difference is negligible. Their apparent absence is not significantly more remarkable, in comparison to the total remarkability of the absence of any form of highly intelligent extra-terrestrial life.

Comment author: shminux 02 August 2013 06:08:29PM 1 point [-]

If you define best as easiest.

Comment author: DSherron 02 August 2013 07:29:38PM 2 points [-]

Alternatively, if you define solution such that any two given solutions are equally acceptable with respect to the original problem.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 29 July 2013 06:27:27AM *  4 points [-]

I would just warn that variance is way more stressful than most people predict. It is really really hard to keep doing something when you get very strongly negatively reinforced. And things have a way of not being as fun when they are a job.

Comment author: DSherron 30 July 2013 06:25:37AM 6 points [-]

WOW. I predicted that I would have a high tolerance for variance, given that I was relatively unfazed by things that I understand most people would be extremely distressed by (failing out of college and getting fired). I was mostly right in that I'm not feeling stress, exactly, but what I did not predict was a literal physical feeling of sickness after losing around $20 to a series of bad plays (and one really bad beat, although I definitely felt less bad about that one after realizing that I really did play the hand correctly). It wasn't even originally money from my wallet; it came from one of the free offers linked elsewhere in this thread. But, wow, this advice is really really good. I can only imagine what it's like with even worse variance or for someone more inclined to stress about this sort of thing.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 28 July 2013 01:50:10PM 0 points [-]

The main reason you don't hear much about it IMO is that the number of hours you wind up putting in makes it only commensurable with normal decent paying jobs. You only exceed that at high levels. This is just based on searching around for info a few years ago and speaking with people who made a living at it. I myself did it part time for pocket money for awhile, but the stress got to me.

Comment author: DSherron 28 July 2013 08:48:16PM 0 points [-]

If I can do something fun, from my house, on my own hours, without any long-term commitment, and make as much money as a decent paying job, then that sounds incredible. Even if it turns out I can't play at high levels, I don't mind playing poker for hours a day and making a modest living from it. I don't really need much more than basic rent/food/utilities in any case.

Comment author: DSherron 24 July 2013 12:30:22AM 8 points [-]

Online poker (but it seems kinda hard)

Actually, does anyone know any good resources for getting up to speed on poker strategies? I'm smart, I'm good at math, I'm good at doing quick statistical math, and I've got a lot of experience at avoiding bias in the context of games. Plus I'm a decent programmer, so I should be able to take even more of an advantage by writing a helper bot to run the math faster and more accurately than I otherwise could. It seems to me that I should be able to do well at online poker, and this would be the sort of thing that I could likely actually get motivated to do to make money (which I unfortunately need to do).

Anyway, if anyone has any recommendations for how to go about the learning process and getting into playing, I'd love to hear them. I'll try to comment back here after doing some independent research as well.

Comment author: Nornagest 07 July 2013 01:53:47AM 2 points [-]

Whether people "feel" it's a fridging is frankly irrelevant, since an author's control over people's feelings is rather limited. However, under the definition Eliezer's working from, as of ch. 93, people are in fact wrong that it's another bloody fringing.

Eh? We're not playing Scrabble here; anyone Eliezer's pissed off with the last few chapters isn't going to suddenly feel retroactively fine about them if it turns out that the events don't count as fridging by a strict dictionary definition. Whether people feel it's a fridging, or functionally equivalent to one, isn't just relevant; it's the only thing that's relevant in this particular context.

Comment author: DSherron 07 July 2013 05:05:53AM 12 points [-]

You see an animal at a distance. It looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. You start to get offended by the duck. Then, you get closer and realize the duck was a platypus and not a duck at all. At this point, you realize that you were wrong, in a point of fact, to be offended. You can't claim that anything that looks like a duck, but which later turns out not to be, is offensive. If it later turns out not to be a duck then it was never a duck, and if you haven't been able to tell for sure yet (but will be able to in the future) then you need to suspend judgement until you can. Particularly since there is no possible defense that the thing is not a duck except to show you that it is not a duck, which will happen in time.

Comment author: DSherron 05 July 2013 08:20:10PM 3 points [-]

Given no other information to strictly verify, any supposed time-traveled conversation is indistinguishable from someone not having time-traveled at all and making the information up. The true rule must depend on the actual truth of information acquired, and the actual time such information came from. Otherwise, the rule is inconsistent. It also looks at whether your use of time travel actually involves conveying the information you gained; whether such information is actually transferred to the past, not merely whether it could be. Knowing that Amelia Bones has some information about 4 hours in the future will only restrict your time travel if you would transmit that information to the past - if you would act significantly differently knowing that than you would have otherwise. If you act the same either way, then you are not conveying information.

In short, the rule is that you cannot convey information more than 6 hours into the information's relative past, but that does not necessarily mean that you cannot go to a forbidden part of the past after learning it. It merely means that you cannot change your mind about doing so after learning it. Worth noting: if you plan on going to the past, and then receive some information from 6 hours in the future that changes your mind, you have conveyed information to the past. I'm not sure how that is handled, other than that the laws of the universe are structured as to never allow it to happen.

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