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Meetup : LW-cologne meetup May

0 EGI 16 May 2016 08:26PM

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WHEN: 21 May 2016 05:00:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Marienweg 43, 50858

Monthly LW-cologne meetup. Please pm me if you wish to attend and are not in our Doodle.

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1 EGI 15 February 2016 11:49PM

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WHEN: 27 February 2016 05:00:00PM (+0100)

WHERE: Marienweg 43, 50858 Köln

If you are new and did not fill in our Doodle, please PM me. Otherwise everyone is welcome

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Meetup : LW Cologne meetup

1 EGI 17 January 2016 10:04PM

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WHEN: 23 January 2016 05:00:00PM (+0100)

WHERE: Marienweg 43, 50858 Köln

Next meetup is Jan 23rd 2016, Marienweg 43, 50858 Köln at 5 pm. If you want to attend and did not sign up in our Doodle please notify my via PM.

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1 EGI 23 November 2015 09:50PM

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WHEN: 28 November 2015 05:00:00PM (+0100)

WHERE: Marienweg 43, 50858

Monthly Cologne meetup

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Comment author: CellBioGuy 17 November 2015 04:17:17PM 7 points [-]

http://boingboing.net/2015/11/16/our-generation-ships-will-sink.html

Kim Stanley Robinson, author of the new scifi novel Aurora and back in the day the Mars trilogy, on how the notion of interstellar colonization and terraforming is really fantasy and we shouldnt let it color our perceptions of the actual reality we have, and the notion of diminishing returns on technology.

He doesnt condemn the genre but tries to provide a reality check for those who take their science fiction literally.

Comment author: EGI 17 November 2015 05:20:21PM 7 points [-]

Um, no, we cannot colonise the stars with current tech. What a surprise! We cannot even colonise mars, antarctica or the ocean floor.

Of course you need to solve bottom up manufacturing (nanotech or some functional eqivalent) first, making you independent from eco system services, agricultural food production, long supply chains and the like. This also vastly reduces radiation problems and probably solves ageing. Then you have a fair chance.

So yes, if we wreck earth the stars are not plan B, we need to get our shit together first.

If at this point there is still a reason to send canned monkeys is a completely different question.

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1 EGI 20 September 2015 07:51PM

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WHEN: 26 September 2015 05:00:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Marienweg 43, 50858 Köln

The next cologne meetup will be next Saturday (9/26), which is incidentially Petrov day (http://lesswrong.com/lw/jq/926_is_petrov_day/), 5 pm at my house (Marienweg 43 50858).

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1 EGI 10 August 2015 10:27AM

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WHEN: 15 August 2015 05:00:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Marienweg 43, 50858 Köln

Please let me know if you will attend until Wendesday. If more than 3 people come, I want to try a more structured meetup than the last ones: 1) One game of skill (dextrity focused) (20 to 40 min) 2) Slightly formalised discussion of one topic (30 to 120 min) 3) Dinner (60 min) 4) HPMOR inspired (Hufflepuff bones) creativity focused game (60 to 120min) 5) Slightly formalised discussion of second topic (30 to 120 min) 6) Feedback 7) Open discussion

Otherwise just Open discussion and dinner.

If you know / have a game which fits point 1 please suggest / bring along, otherwise I will provide one. Discussion topics will be selected at the beginning of the meetup, suggestions welcome - the earlier the better. I would like to order dinner at Stückwerk. The creativity game will be provided by me.

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Comment author: EGI 09 July 2015 03:15:59AM 0 points [-]

While this post is meant as a parody / reductio, I think the idea that "there is no such thing as strength" is not entirely invalid. This has of course nothing to do with strength being culturally constructed or some such nonsense but with "strength" - as it is used colloquially- being highly multidimensional.

Thus there is no unambiguous way to say my strenght is [number] [unit]. You can of course devise a strenght test and define a strength quotient as the output of this test. And if the test is any good of course this strength quotient will corelate with different abilities and outcomes such as digging ditches or carrying stones or the probability of having back pain. But this does not mean that "your strenght" as measured by the strenght test behaves like a physical unit.

It may for example (depending on the exact nature of the test) not be meaningful to ask how a non human like an ant or a zebra or an excavator would rate on the test for example because the test may involve handling dumbbells (what neither ant nor zebra can) or involve endurance tests (what the excavator can do until the fuel tank is empty or not at all). I hope the parallel to AI is obvious. On the other hand if I do measure a dimension of strength this problem goes away. If muscle x at max tension applies a torque of y to joint z this does behave as a physical unit and can easily be applied to any system with joints, be it ant, zebra or excavator.

Furthermore the strength test is to a certain degree arbitrary. You could do a slightly different test with slightly different correlations and stil call it "strength". This is not the case with a single dimension of strength. That muscle x at max tension does apply a torque of y to joint z is an objective fact about the world which can be ascertatined with a host of different methods all of which will yield the same result (at least theoretically).

Concerning intelligence we unfortunately do not know the onedimensional subcomponents. I think this is the propper steelman for "there is no such thing as intelligence".

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1 EGI 06 July 2015 08:49PM

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WHEN: 11 July 2015 05:00:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Marienweg 43, 50858 Köln

Hi everyone,

time for lw-cologne again. My place (Marienweg 43 50858 Köln) 5pm on July 11th. Food and content (discussion topics, games, whatever) appreciated but not necessary. Please pm me one day in advance if you want to come.

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Comment author: Gram_Stone 03 June 2015 09:04:41PM 5 points [-]

Formalizations can simultaneously be simple and useful. I'm reminded of things like Chapter 4 of Superintelligence and Bostrom's GCR model. These are relatively simple models, but they make very explicit things that we previously had only considered in natural language. Attention is a limited resource, and things like this allow us to focus our attention on this model's inputs, that is, what observations we should be making in the empirical case, and allow us to focus on other things to formalize in the theoretical case. Technological strategy cannot be discussed in natural language forever if we are to make substantial progress, and now we have a better idea of what to measure.

Comment author: EGI 08 June 2015 07:18:14AM 3 points [-]

Problem is that this formalisation is probably bullshit. It looks a bit like a video game where you generate "research points" for AGI and/or FAI. Research IRL does not work like that. You need certain key insights for AGI and a different set for FAI if some insights are shared among both sets (they probably are) the above model does not work any longer. Further problem: How do you quantify G and F? A mathematical modell with variables you can't quantify is of um very limited use (or should I say ornamentation?).

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