We won the war against Eugene... for a brief instant.
I'm keeping score and calculating the number of downvotes/upvotes on the comment where I requested help against Eugene Nier downvotes campaign.
Well, there was a moment where 14 people upvoted and 20 puppets downvoted. Now we are at a point where 21 people upvoted and 30 puppets downvoted. This means that at least we forced Eugene to increase the count of his puppets to fight back. I count this as score for LW :)
Tried listening.
3 minutes: most scientists are wrong.
doubt the rest is worth it.
Oh god. This is really bad.
Someone should tell him about the straw vulcan.
The more we (lw'ers) are tied to the word "Rationality". That should happen less. If you feel personally affected by the idea that someone says this part of your identity is wrong, then maybe it's time to be more fox and less hedgehog.
Hi, I'm curious what rationalists (you) think of this video if you have time:
Why Rationality Is WRONG! - A Critique Of Rationalism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaV6S45AD1w 1 h 22 min 47 s
Personally, I don't know much about all of the different obstacles in figuring out the truth so I can't do this myself. I simply bought it because it made sense to me, but if you can somehow go meta on the already meta, I would appreciate it.
Tried listening.
3 minutes: most scientists are wrong.
doubt the rest is worth it.
bring about the future we would rather live in
Attacking the ability of journalists to uncover misdeads of powerful individuals seems to be the opposite. Investigative journalism is under enough attacks as it is.
Shortly after the very early effects, it will have a net positive effect of creating news of positive value, protecting the media from escalating negativity, and bringing about the future we want to see in the world.
The future I want to live in isn't one where the 4th estage can't fights against misdeeds by powerful people.
powerful people.
interesting you say that because I suggested that the individual was not powerful and the media was.
Name and shame media entities that fail to comply with no negative press, or fail to consider a policy.
Ironically, this suggestion is precisely the kind of "negative press" you ostensibly want to eradicate.
You haven't nearly done enough to explain why so called negative press is bad, nor what exactly it is. Many good things have resulted from a negative exposé published by the media.
You are right. The concept needs more work.
And it seems the community is not interested enough to counter the ten or so accounts which do this... :(
it's more like 20+. And the community is not active enough to fight. Once a post is invisible to a large fraction of the community there are significantly less people able to fight.
in regard to: http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/nv8/do_you_want_to_be_like_kuro5hin_because_this_is/
While we are working on a solution, you can go to your preferences, and change the option:
Don't show me articles with a score less than:
to blank.
here are my recent posts:
There are more, but you can also go to my (new) website - http://www.bearlamp.com.au and see them all.
Saw the site mentioned on Breibart:
Link: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/
Money Quote:
...Elsewhere on the internet, another fearsomely intelligent group of thinkers prepared to assault the secular religions of the establishment: the neoreactionaries, also known as #NRx.
Neoreactionaries appeared quite by accident, growing from debates on LessWrong.com, a community blog set up by Silicon Valley machine intelligence researcher Eliezer Yudkowsky. The purpose of the blog was to explore ways to apply the latest research on cognitive science to overcome human bias, including bias in political thought and philosophy.
LessWrong urged its community members to think like machines rather than humans. Contributors were encouraged to strip away self-censorship, concern for one’s social standing, concern for other people’s feelings, and any other inhibitors to rational thought. It’s not hard to see how a group of heretical, piety-destroying thinkers emerged from this environment — nor how their rational approach might clash with the feelings-first mentality of much contemporary journalism and even academic writing.
Led by philosopher Nick Land and computer scientist Curtis Yarvin, this group began a ..."
I wasn't around back in the day, but this is nonsense, right? Nrx didn't start on lesswrong, yeah?
think like machines rather than humans
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There was a lengthy and informative discussion of why many EA/LW/diaspora folks don't like Gleb's work on Facebook last week. I found both Owen Cotton-Barratt's mention of the unilateralist's curse, and Oliver Habryka's statement that people dislike what Gleb is doing largely because of how much he's done to associate himself with rationality and EA, to be informative and tactful.
With all due respect; I am not interested in starting another very long thread.
In regard to the curse, I would suggest that many many many people have privately consulted Gleb on his actions and told him to refrain in various face-saving ways. The number would be something that Gleb knows. This might be the most recent and most public event. But it is far from the first.
In any case; curse or no. There is significant displeasure at Gleb's actions. He has known this in the past and I only assume continues to know this. I hope he takes this into consideration at this schelling point, and I hope that whatever happens next ends up positive for him and us, and EA and all relevant parties.
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I don't know how I would integrate this with my programming work, where it is VERY important my inner voice differentiates between "I know" and "I think" and "It seems like" - were I to use more factual statements, I'd go wrong faster and end up taking longer to debug things...
Hedging your internal voice is not a good idea. Likely to lead to confusion. When you hedge (or don't), you already know what you mean. Other people don't. It's a communication barrier, not one I would tackle inside your head.