Comment author: Mass_Driver 07 August 2015 06:34:08PM 0 points [-]

Great! Pick one and get started, please. If you can't decide which one to do, please do asteroids.

Comment author: EngineerofScience 08 August 2015 01:30:21PM 0 points [-]

Also, can I write in my asteroid essay the potential helpfullness of asteroids? We belive that one asteroid(just one!) could be worth $1,000,000,000,000. In other words, catching one asteroid could be worth one-trillion dollars. Could I mention that in my hundred word blurb?

Comment author: Mass_Driver 07 August 2015 06:34:08PM 0 points [-]

Great! Pick one and get started, please. If you can't decide which one to do, please do asteroids.

Comment author: EngineerofScience 08 August 2015 12:15:51PM 2 points [-]

I will do asteroids.

Comment author: EngineerofScience 07 August 2015 06:20:46PM *  0 points [-]

I would say... defect! If all the computer cares about is sorting pebbles, then they will cooperate, because both results under cooperate have more paperclips. This gives an oppurtunity to defect and get a result of (d,c) which is our favorite result.

Comment author: EngineerofScience 06 August 2015 06:18:20PM 2 points [-]

Just wondering, where will the donated money actually go? An important thing to think about.

Comment author: EngineerofScience 06 August 2015 04:10:30PM 1 point [-]

I can probably write one of the hundred word descriptions. I also could probably make an image as well.

Comment author: Lumifer 05 August 2015 02:31:27PM 1 point [-]

according to game theory

How about according to reality?

And, by the way, what is the fate of theories which do not match reality? X-)

Comment author: EngineerofScience 06 August 2015 12:10:03PM *  -1 points [-]

I see your point. According to game theory you should cooperate( as I stated above). However, I will show what my thinking would be in reality...

If I cooperate, they could to, and if that happened we would at up at a payoff of 12,12. However, if they defect then I will loose points.

If I defect, I would have a chance of getting a payoff of 5,0 or a payoff of 2,2. This is the only way to get more than 12 points, and the only way to be give at least two points every time.

Then, you defect every time. If your oppponent also defects every time, you end up at the pareato boundry with a total payoff of 8,8.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 August 2015 05:24:11PM 2 points [-]

And so, both people cooperate.

Both people who are identical and know they are identical cooperate.

Now do the exercise for two people who are different.

Comment author: EngineerofScience 05 August 2015 01:07:51PM *  -1 points [-]

Both people who are identical and know they are identical cooperate.

I see your point, but according to game theory in this scenario you assume that your opponent will make the same move as you will, because if both of you are in the same situation then assuming you both are using "perfect" logic then you will reach the same decision.

Comment author: EngineerofScience 04 August 2015 02:16:04PM *  -2 points [-]

I would say that according to rationality and game theory cooperating is the best choice. I will show my logic as if both people were thing the same thing.

If I defect, than they will too, and that will give a result of 2,2

If I cooperate, than they will too, and that will give a result of 3,3

I could defect and hope they use the logic above and get a gain of 5,0 but if they use this logic too, then we end up back at the nash equilibrium of getting a result of 2,2.

If I cooperate then I am giving the opponent an oppurtunity to defect but if both people are using this logic than I should cooperate and will end up at the pareto boundry and end up with a result of 3,3 but it is unrealistic to try to achieve a better score so I should just cooperate

And so, both people cooperate.

In response to comment by So8res on MIRI's Approach
Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 31 July 2015 08:58:59AM *  8 points [-]

Note that always only citing one example easily gives the impression that it's the only example you know of, or of this being an isolated special case, so at least briefly mentioning the existence of others could be better.

In response to comment by Kaj_Sotala on MIRI's Approach
Comment author: EngineerofScience 31 July 2015 01:18:18PM 3 points [-]

It also is less reliable when you cite only one source because what that source says could be false(either intentionally or accidentally).

Comment author: Jiro 26 July 2015 05:08:43PM *  -1 points [-]

You can generate a random number in your head by generating several numbers unreliably and taking the sum mod X.

In response to comment by Jiro on Lawful Uncertainty
Comment author: EngineerofScience 29 July 2015 09:03:04PM 0 points [-]

That works for some purposes but it is not truly random so it would be better to use a dice or other more random number if available. Of course, be realistic with getting random numbers. If the situation calls for a quickly thought decision, that works. If you have dice in your pocket go ahead and pull them out.

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