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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 15 October 2013 10:48:33AM 0 points [-]

Or is consciousness not necessary for intelligence?

Indeed. If we mean "intelligence" as ability to optimize an arbitrary goal X, I don't see either consciousness or intelligence being at all necessary for the other. These are two completely different things.

Consciousness is currently mysterious (at least for me), intelligence not really.

Comment author: ExAequali 27 October 2013 07:43:32AM *  0 points [-]

This article makes some interesting points about the meaning of intelligence. Curious what you think of Hofstadter's arguments.

Comment author: ExAequali 16 October 2013 11:49:25AM 0 points [-]

Was Kant an analytic philosopher? I can't remember, but thinking in terms of your actions as being the standard for a "categorical imperative" followed by yourself in all situations as well as by all moral beings, the effect of giving the mugger the money is more than $5. If you give him the money once he'll be able to keep on demanding it from you as well as from other rationalists. Hence the effect will be not $5 but all of your (plural) money, a harm which might be in a significant enough ratio to the deaths of all those people to warrant not giving him the money.

I think we have assume that, although this sounds awfully like that quote about "a million deaths are a statistic", the cost of additional deaths decreases. I'm not really sure how to justify that though.

Comment author: Rain 15 March 2010 03:40:35AM *  12 points [-]

I've used AI as a sniff test many times (>10 tests), along with better-than-human humans (posthumans) and engineered immortality (SENS). Very few people, even those who are smart and educated, are able to argue against them rationally. Every time I've been given more than 10 minutes to discuss the point with someone who disagrees they're possible, it comes down to some sort of mystical mysteriousness which humankind cannot fathom or recreate. Quite often (>20%), it's even revealed a religiosity in the person they don't express in any other way apparent to me (god of the gaps).

Comment author: ExAequali 15 October 2013 09:10:52AM 0 points [-]

So is the source of consciousness not a mystery? Or is consciousness not necessary for intelligence?

In response to Competent Elites
Comment author: ExAequali 11 April 2013 01:52:13AM *  2 points [-]

An anecdote about Jeff Bezos's laserlike focus, etc.:


Comment author: ExAequali 11 April 2013 01:25:42AM 0 points [-]

No credit to Nietzsche for the analogy?